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Old 02-08-2013, 01:35 AM   #1
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Ok, so it's a strange question on a beer forum. But you guys seem to have a wealth of knowledge.

I gotta get a new set of tires. I'm between the 40,000 mile ones for around 90 bucks and the 60,000 mile ones for around 120 bucks each. The tread doesn't even look that different between the two. The tire guy said the main difference is the the firmness of the rubber (ha ha). Like the 40,000 one has softer material so it will wear faster.

I have never had a tire last the mileage its supposed to anyway. Are the 60,000 ones really worth the extra money? It probably only means an extra year out of the tires. I usually put on around 15,000 per year.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:59 AM   #2
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If you want a smoother ride and don't mind changing tires more often buy the 40,000 mile tire. If you don't care if your car/truck ride a little rougher, than spend the extra money on the higher mileage tire. It all comes down to preference of the driver. I prefer a softer tire for better traction and a smoother ride, however they wear alot faster!!!!!

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Old 02-08-2013, 04:20 AM   #3
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Tires are a bunch of BS anyway. I'm never buying tires from Pepboys, the current set has been nothing but problems. In the first year I had one spring a mysterious leak (nothing puncture as far as I can tell but maybe it fell out) and one bubble. They offered to replace the bubble one for free but I had to pay like 50% of the cost of the leak one. Now the same tire (Passenger side rear) has a slow leak so I'm thinking either they're not mounting them right or I have a problem with my rim they're not tyelling me about so I'm just inflating my tire once a month and rolling on it until it's time for new ones and I'm certainly not going back to pepboys.

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Old 02-08-2013, 04:36 AM   #4
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If you're an average, run-of-the-mill daily driver, go for the cheaper tire. If you constantly drive like you're qualifying for Daytona, it might be worth the extra $$. On my car, I put off-brand touring tires (I have no qualms about the brand - the manager of the shop is my best friend from HS). My truck...let's just say each tire has a higher load rating than my entire truck. But with the amount of gravel roads I drive hunting, I value the stiffer sidewall and extra plys in the belt. New tires for the car....~$400. New tires for the truck...over $800.

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Old 02-08-2013, 04:40 AM   #5
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if we believe the ratings, the 120$ tire is slightly a better value. But I don't believe the ratings and I'm not the type to make sound long term decisions anyway so I would go for the cheaper one.

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Old 02-08-2013, 08:50 AM   #6
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Once upon a time I had a second part time job at a tire shop. I'll tell you what I know.

The government has set up standards for tire manufacturers so that you can compare apples to apples, but then they leave it up to the manufacturer to rate their own tire, so I wouldn't necessarily trust what you see. Especially if you are comparing one manufacturer to another.

I remember seeing advertisements for a set of el cheapo tires for $150 out the door pricing. And when people would come back in to get their tires rebalanced, they would be out by an ounce or more, which is actually very significant. But others would come in with name brand tires (Dunlop and Michelin in particular) and they would get MAYBE an eighth ounce weight to rebalance. Not to mention other issues like slipped and broken belts, bad bead seals, etc., that the better quality tires never seemed to have.

Lastly, the tire that you get is typically purpose built. When I worked there, jacked up trucks with HUGE knobby tires were the popular thing. But if you drive an off road tire with monstrous lugs in the tread pattern all over pavement, it tends to build up a lot of heat and wear very badly. It will also tend to start throwing some of those lugs off of the tire if the heat builds up too much, especially on the summertime roads in the Virginia heat. So consider what kind of conditions you will be driving these tires in and purchase accordingly.

Like any other part of the car, tires need maintenance as well. And like any other part, if you go cheap (not to be confused with inexpensive) then you can expect to perform more maintenance on it. If it were up to me, I typically go for the one that has the best consumer reviews in my price range, and that doesnt necessarily coincide with price. But that's only because I don't want to spend any more of my time on maintenance than I have to.

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TireRack has lots to pick from, easy to compare apples to apples. Name brands. I did this on my last purchase and got some all-terrain 75K Michelins for my SUV and ended up saving about the cost of one tire doing comparative shopping. They then display tire-mounting companies in your zipcode, and their rates to mount, balance, etc. I had mine shipped to a Precision Plus center. They called me when the tires arrived and scheduled an installation. Of course they wanted to sell me brakes, a tune-up, etc - but I said 'no thanks, just the tires' - and was on my way with no surprises to the wallet.

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I have a small hatchback and routinely do 80 miles round trip to work. I wanted something that was less noise but just also wanted cheap. I found Nexen, which I think is Korean brand, as cheap. Ordered online from Walmart and had them install. Pretty good deal, I think it turned out to be $115 installed per tire for 17'' tires.

As for the service there, had to wait a few hours but it was worth it in my mind. They don't try to upsell you either.

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Tire rack seems to be a pretty good place to research tires. I've ordered a couple sets from them.

I don't necessarily buy TOTL tires but I do buy at least a mid-grade tire. I have not had much good luck with cheapies. As mentioned, they hold air but seems like they develop wobbles and shakes.

Not on my dime, but did have a set of Michelin tires put on my truck when it was a company vehicle and was doing lots of highway miles. Those tires were absolutely worth the premium penny. They just worked, and worked, and worked, and worked, and...well, you get the picture. Finally the truck needed a new set of tires but didn't go with the Michelins as they would probably dry rot off the truck before the tread wore out considering I don't drive it much anymore.

If the money isn't a killer then maybe give the higher grade tires a try. That way you have direct experience in your conditions because tire performance, life, etc. can vary quite a lot with driving style and local considerations.

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I have a small hatchback and routinely do 80 miles round trip to work. I wanted something that was less noise but just also wanted cheap. I found Nexen, which I think is Korean brand, as cheap. Ordered online from Walmart and had them install. Pretty good deal, I think it turned out to be $115 installed per tire for 17'' tires.

As for the service there, had to wait a few hours but it was worth it in my mind. They don't try to upsell you either.
That's the brand I have on my Accord as well. Been pretty pleased with them.
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