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Old 09-18-2007, 12:10 AM   #1
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Anyone catch the Blackwater story and how those responsible would face Iraqi justice? Just wondering how everyone feels about this one...

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Old 09-18-2007, 12:17 AM   #2
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I think I read somewhere that they fall under the FBI and Justice System for crimes. I doubt that the gov would hand over US citizens to another country.

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Old 09-18-2007, 03:08 AM   #3
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Several articles I've read about Blackwater compare their use by Gov't officials as that of Hitler's Brownshirts.

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Not surprising

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Just more Bull**** to fuel the liberal media. They came under attack, one of their vehicle's was destroyed. What are they suppose to do sit there and do nothing? Its pretty bad when people have to worry about defending them selfs. Pretty easy for the enemy to remove guns from the dead and call them "civilians". I really hope nothing more comes of this, but im sure people in this country will be calling them baby killers and want them to be put in jail for the rest of their lives.

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Old 09-18-2007, 02:46 PM   #6
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im just sick of the media bitching about everything they can come up with about the war. They act like war is supposed to be some kind of civilized scuffle between opposing groups.

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Personally I think that every citizen should have to 'worry' about the potential consequences of defending themselves. It's a very serious thing, taking another person's life and even if you are 'in the right' you should have to answer for your decisions. This is, in my opinion, how justice is best served.

I, for instance, know full well that by keeping a firearm and standing willing to defend my family with deadly force that I may find myself the subject of a serious investigation, particularly if it turns out that the 'weapon' the home invader had was not a gun but a screwdriver or a wallet. I know that firing on someone means I will be subject to scrutiny. I have no problem with that.

If these guys were, in fact, firing legitimately at armed person who were attacking them and that the dead civilians were, in fact, armed combatants or unfortunate collateral damage then I doubt that The State Department's 'fair and transparent' investigation will find any wrongdoing.

If they were indiscriminately firing on Iraqi people in an overzealous reaction to a roadside bomb then they deserve punishment. In fact, if they are acting in such a cavalier fashion they are doing more harm than good to the mission of our troops and they probably need a beating on top of whatever sentence they get.

However, I doubt this is the case. Tier One security folks are not recruited for their brutality, capacity for violence or as combat fodder. They are recruited for their advanced understanding of physical security, application of appropriate force in difficult circumstances and their professionalism in adversity.

But I also know that sometimes people don't react the way they intend. 'Sympathetic fire' happens sometimes--- one guy discharges a weapon and suddenly everyone is shooting without really understanding why-- and it is possible that this group got hit with an IED and then over-reacted, causing local police and shopkeepers (both allowed to keep weapons for their own security) to fire back, thus escalating the situation further.

And investigation is warranted and appropriate, IMO.

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Just more Bull**** to fuel the liberal media. They came under attack, one of their vehicle's was destroyed. What are they suppose to do sit there and do nothing? Its pretty bad when people have to worry about defending them selfs. Pretty easy for the enemy to remove guns from the dead and call them "civilians". I really hope nothing more comes of this, but im sure people in this country will be calling them baby killers and want them to be put in jail for the rest of their lives.
If they fired on armed people who were later made to look like civilians, they should not be charged. That does not mean we should assume they did or did not fire on civilians until the situation has been fully investigated.

We cannot bring peace, stability and democracy to Iraq by claiming we are above the law, and law requires accountability.
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