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Old 02-23-2011, 07:31 PM   #1
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Balls. Balls. Balls.

Oil burner is shot. Knew it didn't have too much longer. Been having issues, we've had so much work done on it over the years, not even sure everything that we've done but it's been a lot.

Had the plumber over to take a look, and it's all corroded, all the way through, Not entirely sure what I was looking at, but you can see steam coming through cracks and crevices that shouldn't be there. The $400 box that controls the water temp is shot, so the water in the pipes is way hotter than it's supposed to be.

It's just ****. It's 20 or 25 years old, and it's just ****.

Good news is that we've got natty gas on our street, so I'll install a new natty gas burner to replace it. Get a little more real estate in the basement without the big oil tank and the big burner and all of that crap. Going to have to take down a bunch of shelving that I built to house my beer gear, that'll be where the new burner goes but that's alright. Getting a couple quotes, from my plumber and from my friend's buddy, who owns a local company that does this work. I'm sure that I'm going to be out ten large, though.

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Old 02-23-2011, 09:11 PM   #2
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That sucks. One of the joys of homeownership, I guess. I don't know anything about the costs as I've always had a natural gas furnace, and replacing one a couple of years ago was $2500.

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Old 02-23-2011, 09:19 PM   #3
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you are going to save money using natural gas vs. oil though. do you have it to your house, or is it at the street?

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Old 02-23-2011, 09:22 PM   #4
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you are going to save money using natural gas vs. oil though. do you have it to your house, or is it at the street?
Natty gas is at the street, which is good enough news for me for now. They'll have to run the line to the house, so the old system's got to get us through until the ground thaws.

I know we'll save money in the end. There are rebates out there, $500 to $1,500 depending on the efficiency. Hell, we'll get enough room in the basement to build a playspace for the kids. Just sucks to have to drop the coin right now.
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:27 PM   #5
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Definitely go with the gas. Cruddy oil hit $94 a barrel today and is going nowhere but up.

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Old 02-23-2011, 09:37 PM   #6
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Yeah, that's not even a question. My buddy's folks replaced their oil burner, and the figure it took them two years to break even. I've got to figure I'll get a chunk of the money back in resale value, too (buying a house with a three-year old natty gas burner or a 25+ year old oil burner... hmmm....)

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Old 02-24-2011, 11:59 AM   #7
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The nearest NG line to me is about 300yds from my house, I'm still trying to track down the company to see if I can get a tap, and get a line run to my house. I also heat with Fuel oil. 15 yrs ago when I bought the house it was about 1500 a year to heat it. I think I'm going to go over 4k this year, and that's after several insulation upgrades such as new windows, re-siding the house (with house wrap). I gotta do something different.

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Yeah, I've re-insulated most of the house, we replaced the windows a few years back... oil sucks. House is only set back maybe 20, 25 feet from the road, so shouldn't be that hard for them to put in the line (plumber was telling me today that the gas company *might* do that gratis, not sure how that works around here).

Still considering whether we install an on-demand hot water system or a traditional hot water heater. Getting advice that the on-demand systems are cheaper, but I'm hearing both from the owner of the plumbing company and from the owner of another company that does burner installs that the groundwater just gets too cold in the winter for them to work really well (apparently they're only designed to raise the water temp by ~60°, making a "hot" shower about 100° in the winter).

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Old 02-24-2011, 04:27 PM   #9
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I just finished going through almost the exact same situation.

Had the service guy out for the anual cleaning and filter change, and learned that my block was leaking (an apparently common manufacturing defect in my 14-year-old oil-fired boiler).

We replaced with gas equipment also. Definitely reach out to your gas company - unless they're really back-asswards, there really isn't a need to wait until the spring for the ground to thaw. My gas company came out with a backhoe, cleared a path through the snow, then dug the trench - in mid February!

We went with a boiler for our heating system (hot-water baseboards) and installed an indirect-fired 40 gallon tank - it basically runs like a second heating zone. Our old boiler had a domestic hot water coil, no tank. The hot water output is night and day better. I'm eagerly awaiting my first gas bill just so I can start comparing it to oil bills from similar timeframes.

The only things I have left to do are to get the old boiler to the scrap yard and to have the oil tank removed - I considered taking care of the tank myself, but decided dealing with the hazmat side of things was gonna make it worth the 300 bucks or so to have someone else do it.

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I feel for you. We had an old (still NG) hot water boiler in the basement, probably about 50-60 years old based on what our installer told us. We had limped it along for several years, but the cost/month to heat was absurd. Its still probably better than oil, but in the cold weather was getting out of hand. We tore it out after a few things that were already repaired started to fail again (only a year later) and put in a new one. $4,500, and our utility bills aren't too much smaller, but we're not heating with a time bomb, and not coming home to a cold house because the pilot blew out and refused to relight... Electronic ignition now

Good luck!

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