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Old 09-12-2007, 08:19 PM   #1
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Default Apparently the US flag has been banned in a school

I don't generally crosspost stuff but this got me pretty irritated and I thought people should know what's going on. So much for freedom of expression.

http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn...9-11-0027.html

SAMPSON COUNTY, N.C. – On the sixth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, students at one high school were not allowed to wear clothes with an American flag.


Under a new school rule, students at Hobbton High School are not allowed to wear items with flags, from any country, including the United States.

The new rule stems from a controversy over students wearing shirts bearing flags of other countries.

Gayle Langston said her daughter, Jessica, was told to remove her Stars and Stripes t-shirt.

“Today she wanted to wear her shirt, and I had to tell her no,” said Langston. “She didn't like it at all because I knew it would get her in trouble. Of all days, 9/11, she could not wear her American Flag shirt.”

The superintendent of schools in Sampson County calls the situation unfortunate, but says educators didn’t want to be forced to pick and choose which flags should be permissible.

On Wednesday afternoon Superintendent Dr. L. Stewart Hobbs, Jr. released the following statement:

"We have had a disruption in school caused by the wearing of certain flags by some of our students. We are in the process of consulting with our legal counsel to address the issue presented."

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:21 PM   #2
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For a lot of people, it's very disrespectful to wear a flag as clothing.

Now, I do not agree with the banning, just sayin' that this is a complicated issue.

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:25 PM   #3
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Pre-emptive warning, though; keep the discussion cival. I'm not in the mood to babysit a thread.

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i'm sick of bans and censorship and all the crap that's happening in our schools. Even if there is a problem, don't they know that bans only make the problem worse? kids only like to do stuff they are not suppose to do.

Somewhat unrelated, but take a look at this crap: The pussification of america:

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_New...tt_slaps/3471/

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:36 PM   #5
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I wonder what the disruption was over people wearing some other flag, seems like that should be the larger issue.

I don't have a problem with the run-of-the-mill clothes with the flag on it, but some of it crosses the line for me, like underwear and bathing suits. I do know some people who think it is disrespectful to put the flag on any type of clothes (then the clothes touch the ground ect...) but they are folks who take the flag very seriously (bought a spotlight so their's could stay outside at night, that type of thing).

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:37 PM   #6
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How about just having kids wear uniforms to school and end ALL this nonsence.

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Or make all kids wear flags.lol

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:49 PM   #8
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Here they passed an unfunded mandate that requires a flag in each class room of a certain size. Many of the exsiting flags don't qualify.


Makes you look like a patriot if you voted for this bill.
If you voted against because you're aware of the pickle you put on underfunded schools.... well....

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Yeah, it's not quite as simple as 'they banned the US flag'. School administrators like to ban stuff...and I gotta admit, if they decide to ban one flag and allow another, there'll be plenty of discrimination lawsuits shoved in their face. Put yourself in their shoes...what'd you do? Now, I don't know the specifics that led to them placing the original ban...but I do know that administrators these days are apt to ban things if they cause the slightest distraction. It's a sad state of affairs. Back in my day, the only thing they usually yelled at you for was a Big Johnson shirt. God those were stupid.

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Old 09-12-2007, 08:57 PM   #10
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Techincally (per the flag code) they did the right thing.

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(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.
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