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Old 12-08-2006, 02:31 AM   #11
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When I am shaving with the grain I feel the hair being cut. and a slight pulling. Against the grain however hurts like a bitch. There is so much pulling I can barely stand it. Especially around the thicker areas like the chin.
Your razor is not sharp enough or you haven't stropped it and removed the burrs. I am 59 years old and have used a straight razor most of my life. The first few years I shaved, I used the old double edge and used to cut myself regularly.

I began using a straight razor and I can count on the fingers of one hand the times I have nicked myself. I bought two razors in 1971 and a strop from a barber that had too many on his hands. He took the time to show me the ropes and suggested the stones I should get for sharpening. I still have the same razors and stones although I have replaced the original strop leather on one side.

Key to not nicking yourself or having razor burn aside from having a properly sharpened and stropped razor is using a hot washcloth to soften the beard before applying soap. Just like in the western movies, they got it right. Yeah, you can shave without this step but it is worth the trouble especially if you have a tough beard.

I will look at the links and if I can add more, I will.
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Old 12-08-2006, 04:37 AM   #12
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Shaving sucks, period. I do it maybe once or twice a week to silence SWMBO otherwise my beard would look like ZZ Top.

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Old 12-08-2006, 12:18 PM   #13
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Forgot to mention that you need a hone as well. In the forum I mentioned in the previous post, many of the more experienced recommend the 4000/8000, which is what I use.
you can find it here: http://www.classicshaving.citymax.com/catalog/item/522944/196094.htm

Straight razor shaving is a rewarding experience, like homebrewing. You can get a more quality product. Also, you can help the environment by not wasting all that plastic and steel. I started for these reasons and because I was tired of paying roughly $2 for each disposable blade (Mach 3)! I still do, but not as much and eventually, I'll get to using a straight razor strictly. What are they up to now, seven blades?

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Old 12-08-2006, 01:09 PM   #14
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Kind of like making beer, huh?
Funny thats the first thing I thought.
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Old 12-08-2006, 01:39 PM   #15
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Forgot to mention that you need a hone as well. In the forum I mentioned in the previous post, many of the more experienced recommend the 4000/8000, which is what I use.
*blink* I have alot to learn. But I certainly seemed to look in the right place!!!!!! I am going to take a hot shower, lather up and try to shave. I read somewhere that I should first go against the grain then with the grain to pick up the cowlicks. When I went with the grain the first time it seemed to just push the hair down and scrape off all the skin around it. Fact is, hair is harder then skin. I'll take EXTRA extra time stroping. And try my darndest to get a thicker lather. Maybe it is because I have hard water. And soap gets more foamy in softwater and less so in hard water, right? *shrug* We'll see. I'll post my experience with the new sugestions.
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Old 12-08-2006, 02:19 PM   #16
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Pain again:
No cuts!
I shaved once against the grain and once with the grain. I made my face super hot. I put on a thicker lather. I stropped double.

When I began shaving the blade didn't smoothly run over my face subtly cutting the stuble. I felt considerable resistence. Particularly around the chin. So much resistence that the blade would halt in the tracks of my thickest chin hair. Which leads me to belive that the darn blade is dull! What makes me belive this even more so is that my face still looks (and feels) like I didn't shave it! Very little if any hair was cut off.

SO I did a test. I pulled a hair out of my head and held both ends of it and pulled it across the blade. It didnt cut at the blade: it snapped at the blade.
That darn blade is too dull to shave with! I think I gotta buy a hone! FFFFFuuuu....

Anyway, my face hurts again. I still have hair on it. It is probably even more visable due to a few layers of missing skin!

So yes, I need a sharper blade.

Otherwise the shaving experience was rather interesting. My skill in using the tool is increasing signifcantly. I can shave, I mean scrape, large sections of my face an neck in a few strokes. I learn rather quickly due to a visualisation technique which is probably why I haven't cut myself yet.

Anyway I gotta get a hone and sharpen that butter knife. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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Old 12-08-2006, 04:21 PM   #17
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yeah to me it soounds like you just need to get a GOOD edge on that bad boy. I shave my head so I dont use a straight razor, if I did I would probably decapitate myself, but what you are describing is exactly the same feeling I get when I have been too cheep to replace my blades in my razor.

About the hot towel and beard softening . . . another good method to do the same thing is shave AFTER you take a nice hot shower. It will do the same thing as the hot wet towel and it's sort of like knocking out 2 birds with one stone. When I am shaving my head there is a noticable difference in shaving my head if I do it befor or after my shower, not only in the feel of the shave but in the end result as well.

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Old 12-08-2006, 04:54 PM   #18
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Pain again:
No cuts!
I shaved once against the grain and once with the grain.
What I understood from reading this Razor Central site is that you should generally not shave against the grain. Partially against the grain in some situations may be necessary. You are perhaps doing it because your razor doesn't have a proper edge, but the site says this is a major cause of irritation. I found that site very informative. I'm not sure how accurate since I haven't shaved with a straight razor, but worth reading, I think.
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Old 12-08-2006, 05:41 PM   #19
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. . . another good method to do the same thing is shave AFTER you take a nice hot shower. It will do the same thing as the hot wet towel and it's sort of like knocking out 2 birds with one stone.
It sounds like that's what he did. I wish I had a barber's chair to lay back in with a hot towel on, but I guess any recliner would do.

AA, here is another straight razor forum site: http://www.badgerandblade.com/vb/index.php

Are you practicing shaving with both hands? It would be easiest to start out learning that way, than having to relearn it later. Try to stretch the skin tight with the nonshaving hand while shaving, it should help with the pull. It's kind of ironic that a sharper blade produces a safer shave than a less sharp one.

Honing will take some time and practice. I don't even think I'm very good at it. I've heard that it is possible to overhone, which will make the blade dull again.

By the way, what kind of blade do you have? Did you buy it new or used? There are experts on these forums who will hone the razor for you if you send it to them. No, they won't keep it They may charge a fee, though. When you get good, you shouldn't have to hone the razor but only a few times a year. With a good honing, stropping should produce a sharp enough blade in between.

Lots of good information from reading this, as well:
http://homepage.mac.com/drmoss/.Public/The%20Straight%20Razor%20Shave.pdf
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:07 PM   #20
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I have a 2 carbon steel blades from Zeepk.
Full hollow ground biconcave blade with round point
Size: 5 1/2" sharp blade.
I got it new. It came out of the box witht he blade covered in oil.

The strop:
"Made of Best Quality Leather, it was designed and intended for "Professional Barbershop Use,The Strop measures 2" X 18" and is actually two separate strops, one made of Prime Quality Leather, the second of "Barber's Best" Fine Weave Linen Finish."
Overall it has 4 sides and I don't know which side to use. I am useing the smoothest side. which is the soft black leather side.
There is one rough side with flares of leather. Another side with smooth leather but is wavy and warped. Another side with linen and another side with soft black leather.

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Here is the link I bought it from.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=110052055838&rd=1&rd=1

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