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Old 07-23-2008, 08:46 PM   #11
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Thats why we end up bombing the Chinese Embassys.
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Old 07-23-2008, 09:26 PM   #12
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Having held some rather high clearances in the Navy and dealt with the "Intelligence" community too often, my position is that most of them feel they are special because they have access to data that other people don't. The simple fact that most of this data is trash isn't a factor. They've got it & you don't.

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:31 PM   #13
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As a vet and a civil servant with over 34 combined years of service tell the asswad that he was a civilian before he was a soldier and he'll be a civilian again...

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:44 PM   #14
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Having held some rather high clearances in the Navy and dealt with the "Intelligence" community too often, my position is that most of them feel they are special because they have access to data that other people don't. The simple fact that most of this data is trash isn't a factor. They've got it & you don't.
+1, and I was in the Navy as well, high security clearance, and I think you're spot on.
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Old 07-24-2008, 01:05 AM   #15
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Eskimo, your aquaintence is a jackwad. You can tell him I said that. He has a lot to learn in life. And he isn't going to learn what he needs to learn in the military. I was a Marine for 4 years. I had a great time and a very successful enlistment (e.g., for my last PFT, I ran 3 miles in 15:56!), but wanted to move on and go to college. I have no regrets and only miss it in the nostalgic sense, but I'm glad I got out and became a civilian again. I don't think I'm better than civilians for having been in the military. I may have experience unique to the military, but it doesn't make me better.

The military isn't for everyone (although I happen to believe one should have had to serve (active duty!) to be eligible to be President, AKA Commander-in-Chief... but that doesn't mean I'll only vote for the candidate who did serve).

I can picture this guy... he was probably sort of a loser in high school, joined the military to gain an identity and the automatic respect of the uniform. Probably came back after boot camp and walked around town in his uniform, wearing badges he didn't earn.

If you're in the military, great, do your job and kudos to you for serving. If you're out... LET IT GO!!!!

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Old 07-24-2008, 06:50 AM   #16
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Army - Going on 12 years.

Eskimo - Next chance you get punch that clown in the throat for me.

I work and try real hard to go beyond sterotypes in the military. HEll, I am a Military Policeman, and we are one of the most hated groups in the Army (and for good reason-most MP as A$$H@l3s). But anyone that thinks that past performance is an indicator of current status needs to be set straight.

I love my job and will keep at it util they beat me out with a stick. Is it hard, hell yeah! I have spent all are part of every year from 2001 until now deployed. Does that mean that I am better than any one, hell no! I am no better than any other man or woman thatwakes up and goes in to the office everyday, we all have our jobs to do, and IMHO that is really all there is to it.

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Old 07-25-2008, 02:15 AM   #17
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lol, fortunately I don't have to see the guy, but if I ever do, a punch in the throat sounds about right

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Old 07-25-2008, 05:27 AM   #18
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Well just re-enlisted for another 6 years yesterday. I think it's hard to make a general statement concerning any large body or organization in full. Anybody that would make a statement like that either rgarding anything would have to be blatantly ignorant, because it would be very speculative to base a general statement that covers every individual within that rank. All in all that statement pretty much shows you the intelligence level of that individual. While I agree that there are morons both in the civilian and military world, there are people more caring and commendable than I am, and it would be disrespectful to shame them in a general blanket statement. .

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Old 07-25-2008, 07:49 AM   #19
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Sounds like he needs a blanket party to give him some perspective. The military is under a lot of the fickle public's eye over the last few years, and it doesn't need clownskulls like him giving an aura of a bad reputation.

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I did three years Active, jumping out planes running around bad places and did a good job of messing up my shoulder and back. Not badly, but surfing big waves or doing anything stressful is out of the question. Then I spent quite a few years in college while in the reserves and for the last decade plus I have worked as a contractor computer geek. Otherwise proudly known as the blood sucking leaches suckling off of the governments teats.
I volunteer to deploy, they don't let me go because "they like me there doing the/ir work". I volunteer to work night shifts, they don't let me because "they like me there doing the/ir work".
I really miss having active duty people in the shop, but they are busy shooting bullets and dropping bombs.
I don't want to make this a political debate, but the military is really pushed to meet all of the requirements, and love working for them and with them.
The contractors are expendable, the military moves around too much to have the institutional memory needed in places, and the civilians are usually burnt out for one reason or another. Maybe we should act like the Swiss, have a kick ass military, but do not go out of country, "except to guard the Pope". The watch all hell break loose and sell both sides the weapons like the French, "Then complain about anyone interfering".

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