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Old 02-15-2008, 04:51 AM   #21
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Well, you don't read about this happening in England. Stricter gun control laws there, or less of a f$%#% up culture? I agree with the NRA...and for that reason I think it's time to repeal the second amendment.
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:00 AM   #22
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Well, you don't read about this happening in England. Stricter gun control laws there, or less of a f$%#% up culture? I agree with the NRA...and for that reason I think it's time to repeal the second amendment.
yeah see how well that works http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/england/london/3195908.stm
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:02 AM   #23
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Well, you don't read about this happening in England. Stricter gun control laws there, or less of a f$%#% up culture? I agree with the NRA...and for that reason I think it's time to repeal the second amendment.

Please do some research!!!
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:06 AM   #24
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Nice link, but again, do you read about these types of massacres in England? Rhetorical question...no, you don't. What's the difference there from here?

If it's not gun control....please let it be CAMRA.
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i would think you don't read about them because your not in england.
but then again i am member of the NRA and have a federal firearms license so i am gonna be biased.

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Nice link, but again, do you read about these types of massacres in England? Rhetorical question...no, you don't. What's the difference there from here?

If it's not gun control....please let it be CAMRA.

Really??? As I said you really should do some research on country's that have banned guns. Is it really a surprise that other country's news is not in our news?
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Old 02-15-2008, 05:28 AM   #27
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OK, that link says gun crimes are on the rise, but also states that England still has one of the lowest rates of gun crimes in the world. No mention whatsoever in that BBC article about massacres like you see here (e.g., today, Virginia Tech, Columbine, et al ad nauseum)

What does Orfy or someone living in England think? I used to live in Scotland and I was very much in tune with the news there. Don't recall anything like this.

If it's not gun control, then maybe it's a weaken tri-lateral commission of Anhueser-Busch, Pabst and Miller?

I don't mean to start arguing with anyone here. I can't change your mind and you probably can't change mine. But you gotta admit, the last amednment to be repealed had it's advantages. Fro man agrees
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:39 AM   #28
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Would it have made you feel better if he would have blown the place up instead?

There are plenty of ways to kill people if you want to - society needs to stop letting TV and the internet raise their kids.

How about if he had driven a new Escalade into a crowd of people, then through a big glass wall, into the building and down the hallways, slaughtering everyone in sight?

Time to get rid of all motorised vehicles then eh?

I know guns make it EASY to kill a lot of people, but only if you are unimaginative... there are thousands of ways to kill a lot more people, a lot faster than with a shotgun...
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One of the biggest problems in USA is not the number of guns, but the propensity to USE them in anger. I read a very in depth report about this subject about 4 years ago, and the gist if it was this:

America has a lot more areas of mulitculturalism (People of all races, religions and ancestry stacked on top of each other) than most other countries in the world. These areas of multiculralism are hotbeds of anxiety and hatred, where many people are on the edge a lot of the time. It doesn't take much to spark ANGER in a situation like this, and if you have a gun...and you are angry....

Add to that the problems in the not so nice neighborhoods, where you see a LOT of crime perpetrated by your own people (not casting aspersion, but an example is black on black crime)

Stack the desensitisation of movies, video games, and television (most of this SH!T originates in USA) on top of these factors, and it is NO WONDER that gun violence is higher in USA than anywhere else.

Last but not least in this bloody concoction is the "Y" generation having NO RESPECT FOR ANYTHING, much less life. They just don't CARE.


That's just my opinion, I could be wrong...

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