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Old 07-28-2008, 09:39 PM   #11
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beergears - how low are you trying to go?

http://westernmass.craigslist.org/msg/733656752.html
Here is one for $150; not quite Boston, but hopefully not too far out. I couldn't find anything really worth looking at IMHO that you couldn't do better than. I would hesitate on buying used unless you know quality and can see problems or can take a guitar guy with you to check it all out. Nothing sucks more than buying a piece of crap that will actually discourage playing. Buy the best you can afford and if you are serious you will appreciate it later. Pawn shops will sometimes have really good dealsas well.

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Old 07-28-2008, 09:46 PM   #12
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Hmm.. I am looking at buying used, cheap.

Or new, cheap, but somewhat solid.
I was looking at Rondo SX / Agile (low cost) offerings, with the idea of upgrading components later on...
They will fit the bill...I had an early inexpensive Agile LP copy that was a decent foundation for mods. Decent company to do business with too. Edit: I haven't been in the loop on them as to how they stack up with the other lower price offerings. First thing you have to do is pick a budget and then get the best guitar for that cash you can.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:08 PM   #13
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The only difference between Mexican Fenders and US Fenders is a few hundred miles. Last I checked US are made in Corona, CA and Mexicans are made in Ensenada.

BUT, that's really not the only difference. They use better hardware on the US versions for one thing. And I'm sure the pick-ups are a step up as well as the wiring and possibly even the wood. I have a Mexi Strat and it's great. As long as you don't treat it too roughly, they can last a long time and sound virtually identical to the US versions. Definitely worth it on a budget. If I wanted a new Telecaster right now (which I sort of do, but can't justify), I wouldn't think twice on buying a Mexican one.

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Old 07-29-2008, 03:10 PM   #14
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Bump.

OK, it looks like there are few cheap Teles to be had, without spending some to upgrade components.

What about your favorite Strat clones... would there be more offerings there..?

BTW, if you search for homebrewtalk with the new search engine, "cuil", you discover a certain HBT member's interest in math and Gibson SG's..!!

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Old 07-29-2008, 03:27 PM   #15
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Always liked my mexicaster. Not the best one I have, but a lot of fun to play!

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Old 07-29-2008, 04:55 PM   #16
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Bump.

OK, it looks like there are few cheap Teles to be had, without spending some to upgrade components.

What about your favorite Strat clones... would there be more offerings there..?

BTW, if you search for homebrewtalk with the new search engine, "cuil", you discover a certain HBT member's interest in math and Gibson SG's..!!
You still haven't clarified how much you are looking to spend in total...that would help folks offer suggestions...

Teles and SGs??? Hell yeah!
(pre bridge swap)


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Mexican and US guitars are quite a bit different in construction. The quality of the wood, of the hardware (tuners, bridge, pickups and wiring) is better in the US build. Also the work into the bodies and neck are different. Mexican-makes are mass-produced machined guitars whereas the US versions are crafted by luthiers. The factories know what they are doing and put out a decent guitar, but the craft aspect of a US built guitar that meets and exceeds higher standards cannot by ignored.

I own now a US built American Strat. It is beautiful, it plays great and I have never had to have work done on it, aside from setting it up. The pickups sound great for what they are (stock.) I have also had a Mexican strat and Squire make and although they are decent for the money, the fact is that they do not hold up without putting more money in custom work into them. Money that would be better spent tweaking a fine instrument.

EDIT: I have been reading around and everything agrees with the electronics, but the one thing that I didn't think of is the quality of the frets and fret-board. Fender separates the necks by quality and offers the better for the American guitars. After all work to be done to have a guitar that you can play for the rest of your life - buy an American. BTW - play it for an hour beofre you drop the money - if there is a flaw you want to catch it before you buy it. Althought Guitar Center has a decent return policy.

For an entry level or something to play on in the living room a Mexican Tele would be fine - but if you can put the money out, you will be much happier.

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Old 07-29-2008, 11:04 PM   #18
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You still haven't clarified how much you are looking to spend in total...that would help folks offer suggestions...

Anything over $200 would be wasted, for a start.

I am looking at, in order of importance

- semi-beginner playability (decent neck+frets, ease of adjusting bridge, etc)
- affordable - no need to overbuy, here
- compatible with third-party stock parts-I read that some copies are not
- a good rendition of tele (or strat) sound would be nice

I don't care about looks, and wish I was near NYC, where a pal gigs, and has access to a lot of used stuff.
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Interesting perspective NWernBrewer, but I wouldn't necessarily agree with a good portion of what you posted after having owned or extensively played MIA, MIJ and MIM Fender products.

Beergears, your best bet is likely to keep an eye on craigslist or online music forums like HarmonyCentral for a private sale used FMIC guitar @ 200 bucks. I've not played any of the Douglas or SX instruments from Rondo. You might want to check over on HC for reviews or feedback. Don't overlook used MIJ Fernandes or Peavey Reactors if you run across a used one in your price range.

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Old 08-01-2008, 10:50 AM   #20
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Another option in your price range:

http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvsicusobo.html

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