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Old 02-08-2008, 05:10 PM   #1
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Default Interested in a Hop Rhizome Group Buy?

I've been looking to get some dwarf variety rhizomes, particularly Summit. I've only found one grower and they don't sell rhizomes from what I've been told. I'd really really like to grow this hop this year, but alas.

I was thinking though, money talks and if there were more interested parties involved we might be able to come up with a nice offer...just a thought. Anybody interested?

Some info on Summit for those that haven't used it:

Summit is a recently-released high-alpha (17 to 19% AAU) hop variety. It is a dwarf variety grown on a low trellis system. Because the low trellis is not machine harvestable, these hops are gently picked by hand in the field and are, assumably, less damaged by the harvesting process. Chumulone levels are low at 25-28% of alpha.
Summit is said to have strong orange and tangerine citrus notes in its flavor, making it ideal for brewing American style IPAs (especially IIPAs) and Pale Ales.

Typical Use : Bittering
Alpha Acid : 17 to 19% AAU
Origination : USA
Characteristics : Citrus (orange, tangerine, grapefruit)
Styles : American Pale Ale, American IPA
Similar Hops : Cascade, Amarillo

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Old 02-08-2008, 06:23 PM   #2
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I'd be down for a couple of those! Finding high alpha american hops is hard!! I'm looking for as many rhizomes that i can find for ipa style beers.

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Old 02-08-2008, 06:25 PM   #3
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AA%s don't really matter with homegrown hops. You can't tell where they're at unless you have them tested, so they're not useful for bittering. I use mine for mostly aroma or dryhopping...

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I'd be down for one. How dwarf are we talking here?

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I'd be up for this if I can get them shipped out here. Same question as Clamper how dwarf?

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I'd be down for one. How dwarf are we talking here?
They are only supposed to get up to about eight feet, ten tops from what I've heard. I've read that they are fantastic for both bittering and aroma (dry hopping as well).
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i'd be interested

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I was just looking for a summit rhizome supplier last night. I'm interested but as Soulive said...it's really a crap shot with the AA%.

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AA%s don't really matter with homegrown hops. You can't tell where they're at unless you have them tested, so they're not useful for bittering. I use mine for mostly aroma or dryhopping...
So wait til' the third year and send a couple ounces with a $40.00 check to the USDA testing lab and have them tested. Then use that figure as an average.

IBU calcs are a corner lot ballpark estimation at best no matter what.

And there are other ways to estimate the bitterness of a HG hop. Google Zymurgy Home Grown hops 1998 for an example.
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You can expect home-grown to be in the AA% range for the hop. That's close enough for me. OSU has some 19.8% hop they developed for one of the majors. Ate one of the pellets two years ago. Couldn't taste a blasted thing the rest of the day & I was at a Beer Fest. I might try getting some.

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