Get your HBT Growlers, Shirts and Membership before the Rush!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Electric Brewing > Wire Size Question
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-08-2014, 08:36 PM   #1
MX1
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MX1's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 968
Liked 47 Times on 39 Posts
Likes Given: 73

Default Wire Size Question



Can any one tell me what size wire this is?
I found it when I lived in Belgium, it was being used as an extension cord on a construction site.
I used it as the main cord from the wall to my 220v electric boil kettle controller I bought from High Gravity brewing.

I now want to use it as the cable out of my HERMS Panel to the 5500w heating elements in my kettles.


Thanks in advance.
T
__________________

"The ART of brewing Beer, is the ACT of brewing Beer"

Ferm 1: Colorado Common Cream Ale
Ferm 2:

On Deck: Pin Cushin IPA

Keg 1: House Amber Ale
Keg 2: Switchback Stout

Total Gallons brewed (2014) - 40

MX1 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 08:45 PM   #2
Leithoa
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Akron, ohio
Posts: 343
Liked 24 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Datasheet for your wire

*fixed
__________________

1°:Haphazard cyser, Graham's English Cider, Cider; Conditioning: Banana wine, Cider, Orange/Clover blossom mead, Cyser, JAOM, In like a Lion RIS ; Drinking: In like a Lion RIS; Mango Melomel

Leithoa is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 08:48 PM   #3
MX1
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MX1's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 968
Liked 47 Times on 39 Posts
Likes Given: 73

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leithoa View Post
Datasheet for your wire
"page not found"

I looked on the webs with zero luck....

ETA: Got the page to open, and I see all the numbers, but not sure on the AWG of the wire, or if it would be safe to use as I intend.

http://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/...m-Black-Sheath
__________________

"The ART of brewing Beer, is the ACT of brewing Beer"

Ferm 1: Colorado Common Cream Ale
Ferm 2:

On Deck: Pin Cushin IPA

Keg 1: House Amber Ale
Keg 2: Switchback Stout

Total Gallons brewed (2014) - 40

MX1 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 08:54 PM   #4
Brumateur
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Brumateur's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 413
Liked 50 Times on 48 Posts
Likes Given: 20

Default

This cable has 2.5mm2 wires and it is similar to 13 AWG. So it's highly not recommended for 5500 Watt load.

__________________
Brumateur is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 08:56 PM   #5
Leithoa
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Akron, ohio
Posts: 343
Liked 24 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

If I'm reading this right the 3G2,5 refers to 3 strands of 2,5mm^2 equivalent wire.

__________________

1°:Haphazard cyser, Graham's English Cider, Cider; Conditioning: Banana wine, Cider, Orange/Clover blossom mead, Cyser, JAOM, In like a Lion RIS ; Drinking: In like a Lion RIS; Mango Melomel

Leithoa is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 08:59 PM   #6
MX1
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MX1's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 968
Liked 47 Times on 39 Posts
Likes Given: 73

Default

So if i looked it all up correctly

2.5mm is = 13awg
13 AWG is rated for up to 35amps
my 5500w element will draw no more that 25 amps, so this wire should work, right?

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm


Tim

__________________

"The ART of brewing Beer, is the ACT of brewing Beer"

Ferm 1: Colorado Common Cream Ale
Ferm 2:

On Deck: Pin Cushin IPA

Keg 1: House Amber Ale
Keg 2: Switchback Stout

Total Gallons brewed (2014) - 40

MX1 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 09:02 PM   #7
MX1
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
MX1's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Posts: 968
Liked 47 Times on 39 Posts
Likes Given: 73

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brumateur View Post
This cable has 2.5mm2 wires and it is similar to 13 AWG. So it's highly not recommended for 5500 Watt load.
I am not disputing this, only asking questions because I do not want to burn the house down.

your reply was posted while I was researching, so I am confused as to why it is not recommended?

Thanks

T
__________________

"The ART of brewing Beer, is the ACT of brewing Beer"

Ferm 1: Colorado Common Cream Ale
Ferm 2:

On Deck: Pin Cushin IPA

Keg 1: House Amber Ale
Keg 2: Switchback Stout

Total Gallons brewed (2014) - 40

MX1 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 09:02 PM   #8
Bigarcherynut
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Stoughton, Wisconsin
Posts: 96
Likes Given: 2

Default

I think the cable will have more info on it than your pictures show. Not sure if it has the AWG or mm on it or not but the cable comes in sizes from 17 AWG to 500 MCM

Here is a link that may help you.

http://www.muellergroup.net/har-cord...%20H07RN-F.pdf

__________________
Bigarcherynut is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 09:09 PM   #9
Leithoa
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Akron, ohio
Posts: 343
Liked 24 Times on 22 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Bigarcherynut, it does have the ratings on it. 3G2,5 where 2,5 = 2.5mm^2 .

__________________

1°:Haphazard cyser, Graham's English Cider, Cider; Conditioning: Banana wine, Cider, Orange/Clover blossom mead, Cyser, JAOM, In like a Lion RIS ; Drinking: In like a Lion RIS; Mango Melomel

Leithoa is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-08-2014, 09:18 PM   #10
F_R_O_G
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: north Seattle, wa
Posts: 150
Liked 9 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 7

Default

hers what i found, there looks like there's some inconsistencies between the rating of wires for US standards and Europe standards but front what i can tell 21Apms should be ok according to how it was made (can't tell what wire it is). but this doesn't look like it would pass in the US 12g can only handal 20amps max in the US. maybe someone can read the chart better and determine the exact rating.

http://www.miccomcables.com/Webrochu...l%20Tables.pdf

__________________
F_R_O_G is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wire size question Gunfighter04 Electric Brewing 4 02-26-2013 01:53 AM
what size wire for ground? BWN Electric Brewing 9 02-22-2013 01:52 PM
Wire Size for Valves TriangleIL Electric Brewing 3 03-14-2012 05:03 PM
Wire Size? McCuckerson Electric Brewing 11 08-08-2011 04:14 PM
Question about stepping down wire size for PID HossTheGreat Electric Brewing 11 02-04-2011 05:15 PM



Newest Threads

LATEST SPONSOR DEALS