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Old 03-03-2012, 04:05 AM   #1
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Default will this work as a metal enclosure?

I got this free from work its about 18"x12" but its only about 2.5" deep. Its a box that holds misc screws and such. I figure i may have to mount things a little differently maybe. I have no idea of the sizes of some of the components that go into a box for an eherms system.

even if its not perfect, it sure beats the heck out of spending $100 on a freaking metal box



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Old 03-03-2012, 04:29 AM   #2
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You'll find that almost anything you mount in the door will be either too deep or will too close for comfort. You definitely need more depth. Most PIDs are 88MM deep, or almost 3.5". Some switches and buttons are deep as well.



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Old 03-03-2012, 04:36 AM   #3
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You couldn't mount anything in that, really. PID, contactor, some buttoms. All too big.

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If you plan an putting PID controllers then the depth is way to shallow, you don't need to spend 100 buck on a box.

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You can use that box, but you'll have to be creative. You could get some plastic electrical junction boxes and mount them to the back side to add depth for the PIDs, switches, receptacles and such. Bolt that box to your brew stand so that it isn't resting on the junction boxes.

If this sounds like too much work then you'll need a bigger box.

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You can use that box, but you'll have to be creative. You could get some plastic electrical junction boxes and mount them to the back side to add depth for the PIDs, switches, receptacles and such. Bolt that box to your brew stand so that it isn't resting on the junction boxes.

If this sounds like too much work then you'll need a bigger box.
That's really not going to work either, because you still have to access the back of all the components for wiring. You need a clear path (and space) for all of the wiring.

Much of the wire is heavy-enough gauge wire that it doesn't bend and conform that easily.
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Suggestions like this and general herd-mind thinking are why I read this board less and less.

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That's really not going to work either, because you still have to access the back of all the components for wiring. You need a clear path (and space) for all of the wiring.

Much of the wire is heavy-enough gauge wire that it doesn't bend and conform that easily.
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If the OP is lucky, PIDs and switches can be mounted on one of the sides, rather than the top. I don't have a PID handy to measure at the moment, but it's another idea to try...

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Hard-headed? Gee thanks!

No, I'm just realistic. Having just completed a Kal clone I realize the challenges of wiring, even in a much larger panel.

That being said, adding junction boxes defeats the purpose as you will just, in effect, be creating a larger box, which is what the OP really needs to do.

That being said, ANYTHING, is possible. I was just pointing out some of the challenges with your proposed solution.

P.S. If you don't value the opinions and input of others, then perhaps it's a good thing you are spending less time here.

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It cost me $40 for a new fibergass control panel box. It was well worth it, you don't need to have a metal one.



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