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Old 10-03-2011, 06:14 AM   #11
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it seems like a cool idea but i dont think it will be comparable to using pumps both moneywise an ease of operation

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Old 10-03-2011, 06:18 AM   #12
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im not opposed to using pumps, im just looking at the cheapest and easiest route of build and operation. definitely open to all suggestions

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Old 10-03-2011, 06:22 AM   #13
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When you get it working you need to post some pics. I think you have a great Idea and the rest of HBT should see it.

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Old 10-03-2011, 06:27 AM   #14
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thanks, im think 89 bucks for the tranny lift with the 20 percent coupons i get every week will be about 60 per lift and will eliminate priming cleaning pumps as well as the additional draw on my already stressed panel. will def keep you informed and id appreciate if you'd do the same with your build!

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Old 10-03-2011, 03:19 PM   #15
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I thought about doing this....but the end cost was so close to buying pumps...and pumps offer more versatility as far as doing some sort of adjustable mash temperature setup, whirlpooling the worth for cooling and beer transfer. Doesn't really matter since I'm broke anyways. Lol

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Old 10-03-2011, 03:22 PM   #16
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Well this question might reflect my ignorance or noobness but i am trying to step to all grain and really enjoy brewing indoors for quite a few reasons, going electric i was reading pots and pumps are a large expense. Using keggles to reduce cost would i be able to weld up a single tier table with three scissor type lifts to utilize gravity as a means of transfer? would this work, what is the benefit of using pumps other than them being a means to a totally automated system?
Buying a pump is easier than welding tables with scissor lifts. And, probably safer, cheaper, smaller, easier to move around, and useful for multiple functions.
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Old 10-03-2011, 03:54 PM   #17
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The part I don't understand about rigging up a system like this is that you end up spending more than the pumps cost. Especially if you value your time.

Not to mention safety and ease of use is always in favor of a pump rather than scalding hot liquid above ones head.

Buy a pump so you save yourself money and time.

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Old 10-03-2011, 05:18 PM   #18
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Ok... so there are a bunch of negative comments, not sure why?

I love this idea!! I enjoy my 3 tier system because I dont suck down my mash and I can gravity feed everything. Yes a pump would be nice to recirculate mash or create a whirlpool, but you have other bennifits from gravity less stuck mashes, smooth easy continious sparging, and everything is controlled by 2 valves.

Keep us posted on the progress I would like to do something similar so I dont have to lift my brew kettle after cooling to transfer into the fermenter.

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Ok... so there are a bunch of negative comments, not sure why?
I don't see even one negative post. Seems they are all directly on topic, too.
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I did this by making a lift on my convertible 3/2 tier rack. I used a boat winch and made an elevator with cable and four pulleys prior to buying a pump about 10 years ago. Worked great for gravity powered brews by dropping the boil kettle almost to the floor during spathe and the raising it up above carboy height after chilling. I'll attempt to attach a photo that does not really show this...

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