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Old 11-06-2012, 10:00 PM   #21
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I tried switching the terminals on the SSR and still nothing! Everything seems to be getting power, but still no heat. Anything else I can test? Could it be some setting on the PID? I have it set to heat to 150 and it shows a temperature reading of 63, so it should be heating.

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Old 11-06-2012, 10:43 PM   #22
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I'm thinking it's your ssr. You could bypass it to make sure your element works.

Have you tested the control voltage and polarity at the ssr terminals and pid? Make sure all is right there. Since you're getting a light on the ssr, I think you're ok. Check your pid parameters just in case.

A pic of the wiring may help...

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Old 11-06-2012, 11:46 PM   #23
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ok, I have results. When I set the ohm meter to 200 and touched the two positive element posts I got a reading of 10.6. When I would touch one positive post and the negative screw I would get a large negative reading, about -55, it fluctuated a lot. Does that mean I have a short?
The elements are good.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:29 AM   #24
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Here is the best pic I could take. I know my wiring is a little sloppy. Hope it helps

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Old 11-07-2012, 04:15 AM   #25
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Well, we need to see more since the SSR really sin't in the picture. Maybe you could tilt the camera from where you took that pic so we can see how the control circuit is wired up.

Maybe you draw a schematic and post that?

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Old 11-07-2012, 08:02 AM   #26
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That looks very simple and should be easy to spot a problem. As Stlbeer suggested, a pic showing all the terminals will help greatly.

Is your feed L1, L2 and equipment ground? It looks like you are tied to black and green to supply power to the pid. I would power the pid at 240v from black and white because a gfi upstream may not like the pid current to ground. I doubt that is the reason for your problem though.

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Old 11-07-2012, 09:15 AM   #27
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It looks like you are switching a SSR with an SSR output PID controller. I suspect you don't need the remote SSR.
What are the specs on the PID?

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Old 11-07-2012, 11:56 AM   #28
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Here is a pic of the SSR wiring and the diagram I used. The PID is getting power from the white power wire. The black power wire runs thru the SSR. The PID is a CXTG-3000. It's rated for 100 VAC to 240 VAC. The diagram is for a slightly different PID terminal configuration. Thanks again guys for all the help. I really appreciate it!

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Old 11-07-2012, 01:04 PM   #29
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It looks like 6 & 7 on your pid are the control outputs to the ssr. This doesn't match your drawing...

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I can't tell, but is your temp probe connected?

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