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Old 01-07-2013, 04:50 PM   #21
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This is the exact reason I used Auber. I've never heard a single bad word about their support.

+1 to them, and good luck to you! Let me know if you need any help setting up the 2352!

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Old 01-07-2013, 10:50 PM   #22
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Thanks Sicklesr; I've read the 2372 manual 3 or 4 times now so I think I'm pretty much good-to-go when the new controller gets here.


Anyone have some recommendations for setting up the PID controller to obtain the best accuracy?


So far the recommendations that I've collected are:
1. Use a PT100 sensor vs. a thermo couple; ensure that you're using the same awg copper wire end-to-end or even better purchase Auber pre-made deluxe cable; if using a thermocouple for the love of all that's good don't install it backwards!
2. Run auto-tune PID calibration with the sensor installed in the vessel it will be used in and close to the temperature that it will be used at (for the HLT calibrate starting 5-10 degrees below your strike temp with it programmed to stop at your strike temp)
3. Manually calibrate the PID controller's temp readout with a high accuracy thermometer in ice water, at boiling, and at my typical target temp (strike temp for my HLT) and then set the off-set parameter in the pid controller if necessary

I will also be running a pump to circulate the water in the HLT as it heats to ensure that the heat is even; I'll be doing this on brew day as I heat the strike water so I'll keep everything as similar as possible to actual brewday.


Anything else?


Anyone know any other interesting pros or cons of setting it up in Fahrenheit or Celcius? -I've been in Ireland the last 5 years so I'm actually more comfortable brewing in Celcius but I remember from the 2372 manual that there's a configuration setting that is only available in Celcius vaguely...



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Old 01-07-2013, 10:56 PM   #23
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P.S. I'd LOVE to see a future PID controller that supported multiple autocalibration settings. (Then you could have a single PID calibrated for both your HLT and your boil kettle and just swap PT100 sensors, you could also calibrate for when you feel like insulating the vessel and when you don't feel like insulating it; or summer temps and winter temps or 5 gallon batch size and 10 gallon batch size or recirculated HLT and non-recirculated HLT etc... and on and on and on.)

OR being able to calibrate it for your fermentation vessel while cooling and your HLT while heating, etc...

Again, a super useful feature that would make a single PID controller much more accurate when used in multiple scenarios.
-What I'm thinking is that after calibration all of your settings get stored in "Config =1" and "Config=1" and if you have a saved auto-calibrated configuration you can just load these saved configurations as the first item in the menu. (Think of the electronic adjustable car seats that have saved settings for passenger 1 and passenger 2.)


I'd give a MASSIVE preference to buying a PID controller that supported multiple auto calibrated settings like this vs. one that made me purchase a separate PID controller for everything that I wanted to do.

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Old 01-07-2013, 11:31 PM   #24
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P.S. I'd LOVE to see a future PID controller that supported multiple autocalibration settings. (Then you could have a single PID calibrated for both your HLT and your boil kettle and just swap PT100 sensors, you could also calibrate for when you feel like insulating the vessel and when you don't feel like insulating it; or summer temps and winter temps or 5 gallon batch size and 10 gallon batch size or recirculated HLT and non-recirculated HLT etc... and on and on and on.)

OR being able to calibrate it for your fermentation vessel while cooling and your HLT while heating, etc...

Again, a super useful feature that would make a single PID controller much more accurate when used in multiple scenarios.
-What I'm thinking is that after calibration all of your settings get stored in "Config =1" and "Config=1" and if you have a saved auto-calibrated configuration you can just load these saved configurations as the first item in the menu. (Think of the electronic adjustable car seats that have saved settings for passenger 1 and passenger 2.)


I'd give a MASSIVE preference to buying a PID controller that supported multiple auto calibrated settings like this vs. one that made me purchase a separate PID controller for everything that I wanted to do.

Adam
While not being as tidy as your suggestion, you should still be able to accomplish this "manually".
Just note down the P, I & D values after running an autotune on you set up in each configuration. Then if you want to change to another configuration all you need to do is reinput those values. Should take about 10-20 seconds to change configurations once you know the values. I know it is not as nice as your request but really it is the difference between changing one value compared to changing 3 values that you had to write down.
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