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Old 12-09-2010, 07:12 AM   #21
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I see now. Breakers.

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Old 12-09-2010, 04:22 PM   #22
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jasonbeer - how long did it take to get your order from Murray?
FYI, my order sat there for two weeks without action (backordered items it turned out). An email got it going again w/o the backordered items.
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Old 12-15-2010, 02:13 AM   #23
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I've made some progress with my build. There's not a lot here that hasn't been discussed in other threads, but I thought I would share. Thanks to everyone's sage-like information!

I ordered a 24"x18"x6" electrical enclosure on e-bay. I thought it would be way too huge, but I'm happy with the size. There's plenty of room to place components and even room left for future expansion.



At the top, there's a cooling fan. Below that on the DIN rail are a set of 30 amp distribution blocks for AC and a set for DC on the right. Breakers are on the far right. Just below the breakers are two 30 amp power relays. These select either HLT/Mash or BK mode. Below those are a transformer to power the cooling fan and PWM and a 40 amp SSR for the BK. Below those you can see the PWM.

On the left side below the DIN rail is a 3 fuse block (PID x 2, transformer). Below that, floating in mid-air, are two switches to control 110V AC power for a pump and an auxiliary item such as an HLT stirrer. Below those are a 40 amp SSR (HLT) and a 25 amp SSR (RIMS). You can see misc cables hanging over the edges. These are for front panel controls.



The bottom of the box, starting on the left, has a 15 amp duplex receptacle for the before mentioned pump and auxiliary item. Next is a 20 amp 220V receptacle for the HLT. The thermocouple connects to the RCA jack immediately above the receptacle. Next is another 20 amp 220V receptacle for the RIMS tube. Again, an RCA jack for the thermocouple. Lastly, there's a 30 amp 220V receptacle for the BK.

Next job: the front panel with indicators and all!

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Old 12-19-2010, 01:02 PM   #24
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Jasonsbeer, any update on your build? I've finished my controller build and am now focusing on completing the RIMS Tube build. It should only take another day. Then testing...

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Old 12-19-2010, 07:43 PM   #25
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Jasonsbeer, any update on your build? I've finished my controller build and am now focusing on completing the RIMS Tube build. It should only take another day. Then testing...
I finished the panel front and installed one of two PIDs. I hooked it up to 220 and tested the indicator lights, receptacles, and the PID that is in there. All looks good. SWMBO is getting me the other PID for Christmas, so I need to wait a few days for that.

I assembled the RIMS tube, minus the heating element. I had planned on having a new 3000 watt heating element for the HLT and a 1500 watt element for the RIMS tube, but SWMBO told me to hold off because Christmas was adding up to be a bit more than planned. The final hook up and test run will need to wait until after the holidays.

Glad to hear your's is coming together! My first brew through the new system is going to be a Newcastle clone. One problem I've had in the past is temp control in the mash. I think this new system should help provide more consistent results and help me tune in my mash temps.

Any pics of your system?
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Here's what I have so far. These pics are hosted on photoBucket and I guess they limit their size, so here's the link:

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t...0Serving/RIMS/

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Controller at end of autotune. Sweet!


Here's a blurry image, but you get the idea. The power input is on the backside of the controller.


RIMS Tube just before I completed it. Added since this picture was taken I've added a 1/2" brass valve for the cross, and I potted the connections to the element


Here is the temp graph from the test I ran today. Once I reached mash temps I got about 7*F every 5 minutes. Not bad and since I am using propane for strike and sparge water, I just need to maintain temps. The spike is due to a valve being closed about 1/2 way on the pump output - otherwise the pump was running wide open. The drop in the spike is where I opened the valve completely.


After seeing your pictures, my build is a lot simpler, but then again - I'm only using 120V.

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Nice build! I like the ammo box. It's cool when people can recycle stuff.

Are you using a 1500 watt element in your tube?

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Nice build! I like the ammo box. It's cool when people can recycle stuff.

Are you using a 1500 watt element in your tube?
I've had that ammo box for 30 years. The last time it was used my son used it to carry his pinewood derby car and parts in.

I'm actually using a 5500W/220V Low Density element, but I'm running it at 120V - about 1375W. No danger of scorching the wort with this thing . It's made of Incoloy - some type of stainless.

I bought some 1 1/2" muffler clamps so I'll mount the tube and see how it performs over the weekend. It sure will be nice to be able to hold my mash temps and get a much clearer wort!

The next step is to build a brew stand. For my space/situation I like a pyramid style rig. After building this though, I have to say that I'm questioning whether I want to stay with a propane fired HLT and BK or go with an electric HLT and BK. Can you say "Merry Christmas"? I knew you could!
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Just curious, how is this coming along?

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I finished getting my control box put together and tuned the PIDS about 3 weeks ago. I used a 3000 watt element to my HLT and a 1500 watt element in the RIMS tube. I think it turned out real well. I used some "cheaper" components, meaning this setup cost a bit less than similar ones posted. For example, I used the SYL-1512A PIDS from Auber, 20 amp 220V receptacles when possible, "regular" toggle switches instead of the large selector switches, and RCA jacks instead of XLR connectors. I made my own AC powered LED indicators and the SSRs all came on the slow boat from China. I splurged where it made sense, like the additional breakers and fuses to protect devices.

I'll be adding a 4500 watt element to my boil kettle after I've used up some more propane. My camera crapped out, so I'll see if I can get a photo of the rig in action the next time I use it.

Unfortunately, I haven't brewed any batches with it yet. We went way over budget for Christmas and then my middle son ended up in the ER. My funds should recover in the next 2-3 weeks and I'll think about brewing at that time.

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