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Old 03-24-2011, 02:41 PM   #1
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I am switching to all grain finally, and was able to get a 28 qt. turkey fryer for only 20.00 from my brother in law. I will mash in a cooler, but want to boil in the fryer. My concern is when I plugged it up last night, I noticed the heating elements are actually INSIDE the bottom of the brew pot. Is this going to cause a problem with the wort, or burn the wort? Do I have anything to worry about or anything I should do to prevent scorching?

Thanks in advance!! I was encouraged to post in here where there are many electric professionals... thanks!

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Old 03-24-2011, 03:26 PM   #2
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I'm sure some of the more experienced electric brewers can give a more definitive answer, but my response would be "it depends".

The electric brew setups around here has a submersed element and produce some great results, but it depends on the element itself. Some have reported scorching with HWD (high watt density) element, but many use them without issue. If the element in the frier has an extremely high watt density, it could cause problems.

A quick test would be to boil a 1.040(ish) sugar water mixture in the pot and see if there is any discoloration/off tastes.

Like I said, there's probably a much better answer, but that's my first take on it.

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Old 03-24-2011, 03:27 PM   #3
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Whats your control over the element? I use a PID controller from ebay. Fairly inexpensive solution (around $40). I am using a heater tube in my RIMS. I still get scorched wort if I try to increase the temp too fast. What is the size and voltage of the element?

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Old 03-24-2011, 03:51 PM   #4
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Some have reported scorching with HWD (high watt density) element, but many use them without issue. If the element in the frier has an extremely high watt density, it could cause problems.
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This would be my concern. I have low watt density heating elements in my HLT and boil kettle. I would switch out the element for a low density and also look into temperature control with a PID/RTD.

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Old 03-24-2011, 03:51 PM   #5
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Pics? Make and model of the turkey fryer? Have you attempted to boil water with it yet?

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Old 03-24-2011, 06:49 PM   #6
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Yes, That is a great idea. Iwill take some pics tonight, post them with the make and model. I am not sure right now of the wattage etc. I do know it has a timer (which I will not use) and also a temperature setting and some kind of protective feature. I know with the timer and the temp control, that I will not be able to leave this unattended bduring the boil. Thanks SO much for everyone's input. This is a great start!

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Old 03-24-2011, 06:51 PM   #7
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I will boil water tonight, 6-6.5 gallons and stop by to get enough sugar to get the gravity up to around 1.07 unless that is not a good suggestion. The extract kits I have done in the past, and the gravity I would plan to do with all grain would go into the 1.060-1.070 SG. I would even like to go a little higher with gravity for DIPA's and High Gravity stouts (with lactic sugar). I bet I am starting to push it..LOL

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Doesn't happen to look like the below does it? If so that only has a 1650W element, not really a whole lot to get you to boiling or maintain a vigorous boil FWIW.

http://www.qvc.com/qic/qvcapp.aspx/v...c-Turkey-Fryer

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I was encouraged to post in here where there are many electric professionals...
Really?! The Electric section was created by HBT to send all the riff-raff, skaliwags, un-washed, and general outcasts that lurk around the site at night.

Think of this section as, "the land of the misfit toys."
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Old 03-24-2011, 08:18 PM   #10
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actually it kind of looks more like this, but when I get home I am going to confirm
http://www.turkey-fryers.com/etfv_turkey_fryer_kits.htm
if it does have an aluminum pan, then that "might" be an issue also.
Again, thanks for everyone's input, it is invaluable and I wish I could give all the pics, specs etc right now. I need to do it when I get home.. .
thanks! check back in a little while.

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