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Old 06-13-2012, 01:30 AM   #1
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Default Probe Placement with out herms/rims

Getting ready to pull the trigger for my electric build and was curious to where the probe placement should in a converted keg for HLT-MT-BK if I dont intend on using HERMS/RIMS? I cant seem to find a thread that has this type of scenario.

Pros' or Cons to the 4" or 6" probes?

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Old 06-13-2012, 09:14 PM   #2
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You mention a combo HLT-MT-BK--how are you mashing? I'm going to guess BIAB? If so, then the shorter probe would probably be in order.

Will you be adding a sight glass? If so, then the kind with a tee, like this and you'll be able to put the probe right through it.

Of course, I have no experience with BIAB...so, if that's your preferred route you may want to find other people doing the same thing and see how they do it.

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Old 06-14-2012, 01:35 AM   #3
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I had not intended on BIAB, but my original plan was so just go with a false bottom.
Single tier.
No combo though, 3 separate keggles.
I do intend on using sight glasses.
Do you think a 6" probe will fit in there and not leak? Along with protrude through the tee enough for an accurate reading?

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Sorry, misunderstood your setup in the op. I have sightglasses on my BK and HLT, but don't need one on the MLT. If you use them, that will influence your probe size.

That pic is a six inch probe through a sightglass tee. It sticks about 2.75" into the kettle, 3" or so is used up in the tee, compression fitting, gasket and crimp. Some people don't like them to go in as far as mine as they fear something happening to them. I'd bet you find people with preferences either way. Initially, I went with longer probes as I boil electric and was worried about stratification but now I recirc everything with pumps. If you wanted to move the probe in or out a bit, the compression fittings give you some wiggle room and they don't leak at all.

Hope that helps a bit
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Big help and thank you!
How far away should the probe and heating element be from each other in the BK and HLT?

Where did you get your probe, tee, compression fitting, gasket from - you mentioned the crimp, crimping it together?

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This pic shows the top down of my setup.


Today, I have two 120v elements. They are all located on the same horizontal plane as the dip tube entry and probe--and they are probably about 7-8" from the probe. If it were a 220 setup in this pic and using a ripple or foldback style element, the element on the right could be an issue. When I switch to 220, just going to plug one hole and use the hole toward the top of that pic. It will always be about 4" away

I think you're OK as long as the elements are more than 3" away and not right below your probe.

Some sort of recirc or stir motor is always a good idea to keep the water temp consistent and ensure that the probe readout is accurate.

I bought the sightglass/tee/weldless setup and compression fittings from brewhardware.com. I bought the BCS probes a few different places: got a few from ECC and a few from brewershardware.com (yes, they are different sites).

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I am a huge fan of mounting the probe at the output of the coil in a HERMS system and not putting it in the HLT at all.

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What Walker said.

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Except he does not want to do a HERMS or RIMS...

I do not use a HERMS or RIMS and have mine like shroomzofdoom and it works well.

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Except he does not want to do a HERMS or RIMS...

I do not use a HERMS or RIMS and have mine like shroomzofdoom and it works well.
You can do what he said even with a direct-fired system. Especially with electric, it's a good idea to recirculate the mash, and since he's going with a single-tier setup, he should have a pump available anyways.
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