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03-30-2011, 12:10 AM
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OK, I am taking the plunge
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My electrician is coming this weekend to install 4 220v 30 amp plug receptacles, and 4 110v 20 amp receptacles, all with GFCI. My plan is to run 2 5500 watt heating elements each in my HLT and boil kettle. Then 3, possibly 4 March pumps. I am going to run a HERMS system via my HLT. Here is my question: What are some good PIDs that will control temperature in my HLT, mash tun, and boil kettle? Oh yeah, the simpler the better. I am not an electrical engineer, I just want to brew good beer. Thanks
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03-30-2011, 01:47 AM
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That is a lot of power! I think you best bet will still be an Auber PID with an ssr to power the elements. Seems to be the best and cheapest way to accurately control a heating element for our purposes.
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03-30-2011, 01:49 AM
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Have you checked out this site?
http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/
You can curse me later.
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03-30-2011, 02:59 AM
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How big a system are you planing??
That is a lot of power. I have 60A available and do 5-10 gallons quite nicely with 2 5500W elements, a couple pumps and associated controls.
If your doing 20+ gallons then god speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
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03-30-2011, 11:22 AM
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So far I like the Auber's the best. But I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't overlooking some other models that might be good too. Thanks
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Originally Posted by milesvdustin
That is a lot of power! I think you best bet will still be an Auber PID with an ssr to power the elements. Seems to be the best and cheapest way to accurately control a heating element for our purposes.
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Brewing beer is a fun and rewarding hobby. When you do good, you get beer. When you do bad, you get beer.
It's a lot like recreation league softball.
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03-30-2011, 11:25 AM
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Yeah, there's a lot of information on there. At this point in my electric brewing career, that place is all like a fantasy land to me. But I didn't see anything about PID model recommendations.
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Brewing beer is a fun and rewarding hobby. When you do good, you get beer. When you do bad, you get beer.
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03-30-2011, 11:33 AM
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Currently I am only doing 5 gallon batches, and initially I plan on just using one 5500 watt element in my HLT, and one 5500 watt element in my brew kettle. Being the impatient type, if things don't heat up fast enough for me I wanted to have enough capacity to double up on my elements. Also, in the beginning I am going to combine my HLT and my HERMS tank, but later on I think that I may split them up. In any case, I'd rather have too much power at my disposal than not enough. More importantly, I'm not sure I could go back to the wife for more money to add more power later on.
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How big a system are you planing??
That is a lot of power. I have 60A available and do 5-10 gallons quite nicely with 2 5500W elements, a couple pumps and associated controls.
If your doing 20+ gallons then god speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  
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Brewing beer is a fun and rewarding hobby. When you do good, you get beer. When you do bad, you get beer.
It's a lot like recreation league softball.
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03-30-2011, 01:49 PM
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Yeah, there's a lot of information on there. At this point in my electric brewing career, that place is all like a fantasy land to me. But I didn't see anything about PID model recommendations.
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See here: http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/control-panel-part-2?page=11
It's the Auber Instruments SYL-2352 PID controller I recommend.
And here for the SSR side of things: http://www.theelectricbrewery.com/control-panel-part-2?page=13
Wiring pics:
Kal
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03-30-2011, 07:06 PM
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Being the impatient type, 
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You certainly won't need patience w/ an 11,000w kettle for 5 gallon batches. My god, you won't even have time to take a pee while coming to a boil... 
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03-30-2011, 07:16 PM
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Holy crap! Don't get distracted or you'll wort will vaporize!
I'm planning on using 5500w in 30 gallon pots.
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