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Old 08-24-2012, 08:17 PM   #1
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Default My all new electric BCS-460 brewery

So I lost my last brewery is a ****ty (no pun intended) sewer back-up a few weeks ago. While this sucks, i'm pumped to be able to build a better system with a higher level of control.

I've been toying with a few ideas and i think that my new system is going to be a BCS-460 controlled 2 vessel all electric system modeled similar to the counter top brutus with a few changes.

It will be a 2 vessel system, 1) HLT/Kettle and 2) MLT, run on 240V 30 breaker. I plan on having both manual and auto control settings, so if the bcs ever stops working i'm still able to brew. I'll be converting my old stand to accomodate the 2 vessels and new control panel.

P-J, could i get you to help me out with a wiring diagram for my new control panel?

This is what i have so far:

1) all controls will be housed in a 20x16x8 nema 4 control panel
2) i have a 12" windows based touchscreen panel pc i'm going to connect directly to the BCS-460 (its takes 120V input power)
3) i would like to have the option to control the element(s) manually and with the BCS
4) i want it to have an e-stop which would kill power to everything except the bcs and touchscreen panel pc
5) i'd like to be able to start the whole system up with a key switch
6) for now there wont be any electronic ball valves, but i might add them later
7) i also want to stay flexible so if i decide to upgrade the system back to a 3 vessel i will be able to do so

So far i have collected the following to begin work:

- 20x16x8 electrical enclosure
- 12" touchscreen panel pc
- 30a dpdt 120v coil contactors (2)
- 3 pos, maintained, NO switch (2), with 2 additional NO contact blocks for each (1 for the element in the HLT/Kettle combo, the second if i want to upgrade to a 3 vessel system)
- 2 position, maintained, NO switch (for chugger pump)
- mushroom e-stop
- 2 position, maintained, NO key switch
- green 120v LED pilot lights (3), one for each element and one for the pump
- blue 120v LED pilot light, for then keyswitch main power
- red buzzer/LED pilot light, for BCS timer alarms
- pushbutton, non-maintained, NO to reset BCS buzzer/timer alarms

I still have to get the BCS, SSR's and all the plugs for the elements, main power, temp probes and pump.

Thoughts?

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Old 08-27-2012, 09:04 PM   #2
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This is what i have so far for a wiring diagram. I used my MS Paint skills to hack a drawing P-J had made (sorry P-J, please help). How would you wire in a keyswitch? That part I left out because I have no idea on how to do it. Please help.

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This is what i have so far for a wiring diagram. I used my MS Paint skills to hack a drawing P-J had made (sorry P-J, please help). How would you wire in a keyswitch? That part I left out because I have no idea on how to do it. Please help.
Hammis,

Have quickest, easiest way to wire in a key switch is to use a contactor on the front side. Take a look at my kits to get an idea on how to wire it. With the draw your thinking, a 40a contactor will be plenty.
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thanks for the suggestion. i also found another method on Kal's website.

Any suggestions on how to wire in the resistors? or where to get them from?

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thanks for the suggestion. i also found another method on Kal's website.

Any suggestions on how to wire in the resistors? or where to get them from?

Honestly, never looked for them. I'm not a big fan of the design, but that argument has been beaten to a pulp. I would venture to bet, the best place to look in short distance is RadioShack. If you have a Frys, even better.

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so i made some quick changes. decided to add another DPDT for the estop instead of the grounding way.
P-J any help with the diagram would be greatly appreciated (PLEASE)

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If you use DPST contactors you'll save more than twice the price on each one. Here is a ebay item #390297684730 for the folks I buy mine from. Best deal anywhere, don't know if they ship to canadia though.

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so i made some quick changes. decided to add another DPDT for the estop instead of the grounding way.
P-J any help with the diagram would be greatly appreciated (PLEASE)
Looks pretty good as you have it for your goal. I definitely recommend keeping the pc and bcs isolated from the estop as you have done. That way you don't completely lose a batch if you hit the estop.
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A few updates to the build progress. Built my new stand this weekend, pictures below:

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so below are some more pictures of progress on the control panel. I've been slowly working away at it for a week. All the holes were drilled and the hole for the control panel and heatsink were cut. MOst of the guts are arriving within the next week so i'll be able to start wiring soon. Going to prime and paint it this weekend.

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