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NewBrewB 04-08-2012 11:47 AM

Mistakes I made while attempting Kals Electric build
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We all know this one:

"Measure twice, cut once"

I learned that it should read:

"Measure twice, cut once with the right tool"

I was so excited to get my 45mm bimetal hole saw in the mail. I finally checked amazon and a week after ordering, it still had not shipped. I canceled the order and paid $7 more to buy it at HD. The next morning, my wife and I were cleaning the house for company but I wanted to cut the last two holes so I could paint the enclosure.

In my rush, I grabbed the wrong bit and cut 51 mm holes instead of 45mm......had to spend an extra hour creating a steel plate from another enclosure I had originally purchased but decided not to use, and then JB welding it in place and getting everything filed down....

Going to paint it this morning--Hopefully it will look fine (and at least it is on the bottom)

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zeus53219 04-08-2012 12:24 PM

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Nice save. I just went with a jig saw and a standard 2 plug 15A twist-lock($5.50) for the pumps.

NewBrewB 06-17-2012 03:30 AM

No pictures but I essentially drilled the holes for one of my heat sinks just barely too far apart. After that, the bolts wouldn't thread properly without angling and stripping, in addition to leaving a gap that the silicone didn't fill..... ended up having to re-drill/enlarge the holes, curse at it quite a bit, scrape and re-apply the silicone, and use washers so the bolt heads didn't go through the enlarged holes.

Measure twice, cut (or in this case, drill) once.

NewBrewB 06-17-2012 03:33 AM

Oh... also somehow bought the wrong 22mm lights.... I got the ones that are also switches and are not properly sealed/water resistant.

I've been stalling on ordering my Volt/Amp meters... finally decided to do it today and realized they could take up to a month for shipping---pretty disappointing. If you are attempting this build, get your stuff ordered from Chinese manufactures as soon as possible... Auber Instruments is wicked-fast so no hurry on their components.

emjay 06-17-2012 03:36 AM

You're lucky you didn't make that mistake on some Blichmanns! That would really suck.

JRems 06-17-2012 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by NewBrewB (Post 4178237)
Oh... also somehow bought the wrong 22mm lights.... I got the ones that are also switches and are not properly sealed/water resistant.

let me know if you want to sell the wrong ones. I think I could use them send me a pm with some pics of them if possible. Good luck with the rest of the build. I completed a much simpler 1 pid control panel for a herms setup. Also if you want I could find the name of the Chinese eBay seller I used to buy lights and switches, I had tracking from china and only took 10 days to NY.

NewBrewB 06-19-2012 06:45 PM

I bought two definite purpose contactors--didn't really realize Kal's design uses power relays (page 245 mentions both but doesn't demonstrate installation/use of the Contactors) Anyway, I bought a 120v and a 240v... Now that I'm getting further in my Kal build, I'm wondering what I should have bought instead...

Does it matter if I use the 240? Should I sell both and buy Power Relays?


NewBrewB 06-25-2012 11:09 AM


cscade 06-25-2012 11:34 AM

In Kal's design the 120V loads (pumps) are switched directly, and the 240V loads (elements) are switched by relays and then controlled by SSRs. So all three relays in the box (incoming power, element, element) need to be the same - 240V.

Edit: The labels in that picture show the coil voltage as being what's different, it says nothing about the load voltage, just the load amperage. If those are rated high enough, you'd have to switch one of them at 240V and one of them at 120V. Sounds like a bad idea to me. Go for 240V 40A+ load rated relays, with 120V coils.

P-J 06-25-2012 12:06 PM

Both of those contactors are double pole & are rated for switching 240V 40A. One has a 120V coil and the other a 240V coil.

They will work just fine for your setup. Just energize their pick coils appropriately.

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