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Cwetherford 07-08-2011 01:42 AM

I want a electric set up
 
Cns someone tell me a good basic electric heating system for a boil

frankstoneline 07-08-2011 03:20 AM

there are a lot of questions which would help determine what will fit your needs. What volumes do you want to be able to work with? what type of access do you have to a 240v outlet? what kind of cash you are willing to spend etc. I would look at some builds here, lots of really good 240v builds around, most of them PID controlled and using water heater elements. there are also possibilities for 120v etc.

Cpt_Kirks 07-08-2011 01:32 PM

To start off easy, build a couple of 120V heatsticks.

For 2000 watt elements, you will need access to two 20 Amp circuits.

A couple of 2kw sticks are sufficient for 10 gallon batches. They can be used to heat mash/sparge water and for the boil.

wilceaser 07-08-2011 05:06 PM

Listen to the Good Cpt Kirks, He knows what he's talking about.
I just put my new electric system to the test this weekend. Best brew day I have had in a long time.
2 2000watt heat sticks, and 2 20amp ciruits. 2 ten gallon gott coolers for a Mash Tun and Hot Liqure Tanks and 1 12 gallon pot.
Add a March or Chugger Pump to the mix and you have a nice little system for not too, too, much money.

Edit:
Also read all the posts in the section to get a good Idea about what others do and the possibilities that exist.
If you do not have any electrical experience at all, then consult with a professional because you can kill, maim, or hurt yourself if you do not know what you are doing.

frankstoneline 07-08-2011 10:08 PM

I'm putting together a pid driven 2 loop 120v system. eventually will utilize 2000w rims tube and a pump, then a 1500w and 2000w pair of elements in the kettle (so i can run pump and 1500w element at the same time on one loop and 2000w element on the other loop all at once) I can post pictures of kettle and controls when its done, rims tube and pump will be next phase.

Psych 07-11-2011 10:43 PM

Read read read...best advise I can offer. Simple is just as hard as a proper setup, it seems. You start simple but then say "Well if I'm doing this, I should do this..." I need this to control it, so why not do this instead, etc. Read every build thread you can.

The simplest is probably heatsticks, but definitely they have the highest failure rate, and when an electrical item fails in water, it'll likely be shorting out, shorting out something that's pulling 15+ amps in a pot holding 10 gallons of water that you're likely close to touching, probably not an amazing thing for life expectancy :)

Do it safe, and do it thorough, don't cut corners. But yeah, read everything here like three times and that'll get you on the right track :)

Cpt_Kirks 07-12-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psych (Post 3077565)
Read read read...best advise I can offer. Simple is just as hard as a proper setup, it seems. You start simple but then say "Well if I'm doing this, I should do this..." I need this to control it, so why not do this instead, etc. Read every build thread you can.

The simplest is probably heatsticks, but definitely they have the highest failure rate, and when an electrical item fails in water, it'll likely be shorting out, shorting out something that's pulling 15+ amps in a pot holding 10 gallons of water that you're likely close to touching, probably not an amazing thing for life expectancy :)

Do it safe, and do it thorough, don't cut corners. But yeah, read everything here like three times and that'll get you on the right track :)

If the stick is properly made, grounded and connected to a GFCI protected circuit, it is safe. And element built in can fail too, you know.

jeffmeh 07-12-2011 02:16 PM

For an education, I highly recommend reading www.theelectricbrewery.com. Even if you decide to go with something much simpler, you will have gained an understanding of the principles.

SookeBrewing 07-12-2011 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffmeh (Post 3079181)
For an education, I highly recommend reading www.theelectricbrewery.com.

Um, wow. :rockin:

Psych 07-12-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpt_Kirks (Post 3079047)
If the stick is properly made, grounded and connected to a GFCI protected circuit, it is safe. And element built in can fail too, you know.

Oh certainly, but you're less likely to be touching it when it does fail, and there's more points, bends, and water proofing required for a heat stick than the single hole and generally accepted and available sealing for said hole.


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