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Old 08-14-2013, 01:06 AM   #11
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I have an electric BIAB system fashioned after the one described in the following Instructable: http://www.instructables.com/id/Simp...-brewery-BIAB/

The heating element is 5500 watt and I used a 62 qt Bayou Classic with a steaming basket.

I made my own controller designed around a $20 part I bought on ebay from China that worked but seemed really fragile, vulnerable to breakage and I was afraid to seal it up due to the potential for heat build up so I ended up using a 240V controller from kegkits.com (Tom Hargrave). It has a built in fan and works really well. I highly recommend it.

After using the electric kettle I don't want to go back to propane because the electric kettle is so much faster to heat and bring to a boil. Also with the electric kettle the temperature is much easier to control and prevent boil over. I live in an area with a fairly mild climate (Oregon coast) so I brew year round outside and although the wind often blows it is not a significant factor as it is with propane.

I had a bag made by someone in Portland, OR (bagbrewer.com) that fits my kettle perfectly and works really well. I have a cheap two pulley bicycle storage hoist mounted above where I brew that I use to pull up the bag full of saturated malt, I pull it out of the kettle and let it drain while the kettle comes up to a boil (or longer).

With a 62 quart kettle you may not be able to get all of the water you need for a 1.060 batch using the BIAB system but I don't think that is a significant issue, just add additional water after you remove the bag.

Without a RIMS system maintaining an even mash temperature in a kettle outside can be challenging. I bring mine up to the desired temperature, turn off the element, wrap the kettle in an old sleeping bag and just let it sit for the desired time.

The only disadvantage I have seen with the electric kettle set up I have is cleaning. It takes a few minutes longer to clean the element but it is not a big deal.

Let me know if you have any questions or need additional information.

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Old 08-15-2013, 07:04 PM   #12
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Ronsonn,

How much do you think you spent on making your own eBIAB system, minus the controller aspect? I'm contemplating copying the High Gravity system but am also considering just buying theirs as it would be simpler.

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Old 08-15-2013, 07:54 PM   #13
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Why not KISS and just crack the garage door open when brewing?

I have an 82 qt eBIAB system and I brew in the garage as well. I have an eyebolt in the ceiling, set my table up underneath it, and just hoist the bag of grain out when I am done with the mash. Currently I have to muscle it out, but looking to get a wench. Those 30lb grain bills easily double in weight once wet!

Anyways, back to the matter at hand. I just crack my garage door when brewing and it stays aired out very well. Of course, I do not have cold winters here in Florida.

As for heating and boiling water, DrHops hit it exactly. I have a 5500w element and it takes me less then 20 to heat to mash and from mash-out (168*) it takes 10 minutes to boil. No time whatsoever. I would recommend getting the 82 qt kettle, it is worth the price. This allows you to brew bigger batches. I am easily able to brew 14 gallons 1.06 OG beers in one batch, that's two full kegs and 25 bottles. Allows you to throw a keg on tap, let another age, and have 25 bottles to submit to competitions or give out to friends. You're already spending your time making the beer, why not get more out of the process. This is of course for a beer you have already critiqued. I do 2.5 gallon test batches for any new beers.

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Old 08-15-2013, 09:34 PM   #14
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With a 62 quart kettle you may not be able to get all of the water you need for a 1.060 batch using the BIAB system but I don't think that is a significant issue, just add additional water after you remove the bag.
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I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying correctly. Are you saying that you can't do many 5 gal batches with OG's above 1.060 in a 15 gal pot using the BIAB technique without some sort of sparging added? This would definitely be a deterrent to me for switching to the BIAB technique from my current batch sparging that I do. I'd say half of my beers are in the 1.060 to 1.080 range.

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Old 08-17-2013, 11:19 PM   #15
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My comment about adding extra water for a 1.060+ gravity batch is in regards to making a 10 gallon batch in a 60 - 62 qt pot using BIAB. No limitations for a 5 gallon batch. Once I have over about 20 lbs of grain I have to add 1-1.5 gallons of additional water to get a 10 gallon batch, I also do a 90 minute boil.

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Old 08-18-2013, 12:13 AM   #16
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Ronsonn,

How much do you think you spent on making your own eBIAB system, minus the controller aspect? I'm contemplating copying the High Gravity system but am also considering just buying theirs as it would be simpler.

The cost of the kettle with element installed totaled about $230
Here is a breakdown of the significant items:

Stock pot with basket $145
Water heater element $23
Dryer cord $10
weldless bulkhead with valve $30
electrical box and misc. items to attach element to pot $15

You could probably save $20-$30 by shopping around in a big discount place but I live in a small town so it is either internet or my local Ace hardware.

You will also need a 1.25" knockout punch which cost me $77 that I intent to sell one of these days (should get back 75% of the cost). The knockout punch is not the typical size that electricians use for 1.25" conduit so beware and order the correct part.

Additionally you will need a drill and bit for hard steel as well as a step drill bit to drill through the kettle to install the bulkhead.

It takes some time to assemble this but I like to make things. Dealing with the kettle and element only took a couple hrs making the controller took a lot of extra time because I am not real comfortable with electricity.

If you are concerned with $ a deal breaker is whether or not you have a 30 amp 240V circuit available. I did but I ended up making a couple of major extension cords to allow me to brew where I really wanted to.

The bag cost $35, it is tapered so it drains perfectly into the pot and it is really well reinforced.

For BIAB using an electric kettle the steaming basket that comes with the Bayou Classic is awesome because you can install the element below the basket and the bag never gets near the element. The 62 qt kettle is the largest one that Bayou Classic makes with a steaming basket elevated above the bottom of the pot.

If you have additional questions let me know you will get a quicker response if you email me directly rsonnevil@gmail.com.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:00 PM   #17
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Just my two cents, you can save a little bit more money by opting out of getting the steam basket. I use an 82 quart Bayou Classic kettle and purchased it with the basket, ended up not even using it. I make very big beers and my home-made bag has endured over 50 pounds of soaking wet grain. The basket helps a little with keeping the grain in a uniform shape, but just an area you can cut costs on. Another place you can save is just buying a step bit, instead of the hole punch. I used just my step bit and then a dremel to sand it fine before installing my weldless bulkhead fittings.

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Old 08-22-2013, 11:38 AM   #18
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Why not KISS and just crack the garage door open when brewing?

I have an 82 qt eBIAB system and I brew in the garage as well. I have an eyebolt in the ceiling, set my table up underneath it, and just hoist the bag of grain out when I am done with the mash. Currently I have to muscle it out, but looking to get a wench. Those 30lb grain bills easily double in weight once wet!

Anyways, back to the matter at hand. I just crack my garage door when brewing and it stays aired out very well. Of course, I do not have cold winters here in Florida.

As for heating and boiling water, DrHops hit it exactly. I have a 5500w element and it takes me less then 20 to heat to mash and from mash-out (168*) it takes 10 minutes to boil. No time whatsoever. I would recommend getting the 82 qt kettle, it is worth the price. This allows you to brew bigger batches. I am easily able to brew 14 gallons 1.06 OG beers in one batch, that's two full kegs and 25 bottles. Allows you to throw a keg on tap, let another age, and have 25 bottles to submit to competitions or give out to friends. You're already spending your time making the beer, why not get more out of the process. This is of course for a beer you have already critiqued. I do 2.5 gallon test batches for any new beers.
Thank you, I'm convinced on getting the larger 82 quart pot now and an exhaust hood with 300 cfm fan to vent the vapors out of the garage. In the Northeast summers and winters can get to extreme temperatures so cracking the garage door won't be practical as I see it now.
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Old 09-24-2013, 07:47 PM   #19
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Screwy,

wondering if you completed the move/brewery upgrade? hopefully you stayed in Jersey....

been looking at the same system meself, wondering how it goes for you.

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looking to get a wench.
Me too.
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