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Old 10-23-2011, 06:35 PM   #1
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So I'm trying to wire a very basic PID controller. this one: http://www.susanminor.org/Rayeimages/pid/diagram.jpg

I've made things difficult by acquiring an Automations Direct 4848 RR ( http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...ls/SL4848-RR-D )

I also ordered a Auber 40A SSR. The problem with this is my SSR looks nothing like the one on the auber site. I ended up with this one
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/48...d_40A_SSR.html

Thus far in my wiring attempts I have managed to get both the PID and SSR to power on but haven't been able to get them to switch the element on (yes the pid is programmed) I've tried wiring like the diagram shows but I think inbetween the different SSR and the different PID I have some serious problems. If someone could help me out by:
1. Where does the female power cords hot line go into the SSR?(1,2,3, or 4)
2. Where does the male power cords hot line go into the SSR?(1,2,3, or 4)
3. Where does the line opposite the female power cord go into the PID at? (1-12)
4. Where does the line opposite the male power cord go into the PID at? (1-12)
5. Where do the other 2 PID wires go in at? (the two lines connected to the terminal strip at the hot(black?) line and neutral(white?) line go into the PID at? (would this be the input or output even?) (1-12)
6. My male powercord has green(ground?) Brown(hot?) and blue(neutral?) lines inside of it rather than black, white and green. Have I assigned the colors correctly?

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Old 10-24-2011, 01:47 AM   #2
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Your first issue: The PID you secured ($99.00 - wow!) has relay outputs and is not designed to control SSRs. Now you have to decide what you want to do.

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Old 10-24-2011, 01:51 AM   #3
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Mabe im missing something but I think your PID is not compatable with a SSR, only a regular relay. This could be your problem. I would return this if you can and just get the auber 2352: http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...&products_id=3 , much cheaper and its what most people use here so it'll be easier to help.

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Old 10-24-2011, 02:55 AM   #4
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Well I got the PID in a prebuilt controller so I didnt pay that crazy amount. What kind of relay do I need?(or is it built in?)

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I think I'm gonna try to get rid of the Automations direct PID and get an Auber one. Will my automations RTD work in my auber PID?

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Which RTD probe did you get?

For the PID I'd suggest that you get the Auber Instruments PID SYL-2352 << link
It is the one most commonly used on this forum for brewing.

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uh, I THINK its this one with a thermowell but I'm not sure: http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...RTD1-H04L01-02


rtd.jpg

I'd love to have the auber one, when I bought the prebuilt rims panel I expected it to have it in it. It had an SSR in it(which I melted during the first boil) which led me to believe I would need one for my application.

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That one should work just fine.

Plan out your setup and wiring and post the info in this thread. We can help you.

Wishing you the best.

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Excellent. I'll be getting the auber PID within the next few days. Will the diagram I posted in the original thread work without a hiccup with the Auber PID and the SSR listed in the original post(got it from auber but it doesn't look like the picture)

Edit: I'd still really like to have a switch that shuts off the element but leaves the PID on. Could I put one inbetween F and L1? If so would this switch work? http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=223

(sorry I have two of these threads going)

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Do you have a heat sink for the SSR? If not - get one.

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