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Old 04-04-2013, 01:26 PM   #1
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So without giving it much thought last year, I bought two of these 11 gallon Bayou Classic Kettles:

http://www.amazon.com/Bayou-Classic-1044-44-Quart-Stainless-Steel/dp/B000VXHKMC

My plan was to install the following heating element in the two kettles to serve as my HLT and BK:

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-02963-Heater-Ripple-Element/dp/B000BPG4LI/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1365081589&sr=1-1&keywords=camco+ultra+low+watt+density+5500W

The issue is that the ID of the kettles are ONLY 13.5"! I'm struggling to find any other ultra low watt density elements that are less than 14" long (and still affordable).

I was thinking if I could find a 1" NPT coupler to essentially "extend" the threaded portion so I could "shorten" the heating element length in the kettle, I may be able to solve my problem. Do you guys have any other thoughts that could help me out?

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Just curious, is it safe to heat it up a little in a vise, and bend it a hair more?



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The issue is that the ID of the kettles are ONLY 13.5"! I'm struggling to find any other ultra low watt density elements that are less than 14" long (and still affordable).

I was thinking if I could find a 1" NPT coupler to essentially "extend" the threaded portion so I could "shorten" the heating element length in the kettle, I may be able to solve my problem. Do you guys have any other thoughts that could help me out?

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How about something like this?

https://www.brewershardware.com/TC15F10NPSCOV.html
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How exactly does this work?
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Just curious, is it safe to heat it up a little in a vise, and bend it a hair more?
I haven't the slightest clue. It is Nickel Chromium Alloy, so I don't know if you could technically heat the element hot enough to make it pliable enough to change its shape.
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I did find this:

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-02753-4500W-Heater-Element/dp/B0060HND9W/ref=sr_1_6?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1365082290&sr=1-6&keywords=camco+ultra+low+watt+density+4500W

And it should fit since it claims that the minimum tank should be 13". This looks like a possible option (although I somehow need to find a 1 3/8" pipe cast fitting instead of the usual 1").

Still open to suggestions on altering the existing element in some way to make it work... or if people have successfully used those kettles with the 5500W Camco elements..

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Solder or weld one of these to your pot.


https://www.brewershardware.com/1.5-Tri-Clover-Ferrule-Medium-TC15FER14MMP.html

Screw element in this, and clamp it to the ferrule. Gain at least an inch.



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How bout this one? It's 10 1/2" long from the flange.

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-Heater-Element-Foldback-Density/dp/B0006JLVC6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_4

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I have the same pot. I used a SS coupling welded on the outside. I can use any size element I want.

http://www.bargainfittings.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=36_38&product_id=200

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I'd rather not weld anything since I am going to an all weldless system.

@NivekD do you think the Low Watt Density vs Ultra Low Watt Density will make a difference with scorching. I was hoping to use a ULWD element to avoid accidental dry fire issues and scorching.



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