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Old 01-10-2014, 04:02 PM   #1
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Default Goind Electric for an HLT Keggle, your feedback please

So far this is what I have come up with, please provide any feedback on how this looks.

voltage/current display, just thought it would be cool, and was pretty cheap on EBAY. Just got it in the mail the other day.

5500 Watt 240V Heating Element

Replace my current 30A 240V breaker and outlet with GFCI versions.(used to use this for a welder in my garage).

Illuminated Maintained Pushbutton Switch, 2 NO, 22mm. 120/240V
Item #: SW1

•LED Color Option - Red
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...7d40ce2b9b568b

$10.98


1/16 DIN PID Temperature Controller (SSR control output)
Item #: SYL-2352
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...&products_id=3

$46.50

Amico Liquid Measuring 50mm x 5mm PT100 Type Earth Thermocouple Probe 1 Meter 3.3ft, I will probably get one a little longer.
http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Liquid-M...s=pt-100+probe

$5.92

40A SSR
Item #: MGR-1D4840
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...products_id=30

$19.00

External Mount Heat Sink for 40A SSR (Square)
Item #: HS40ET
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=224

$20.00


Box for 1/16 DIN controller
Item #: Pbox16
http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=143

$29.67


Around $150+ in parts

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Old 01-10-2014, 06:41 PM   #2
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No need for the 40a breaker.... the 40a SSR is just capable of up to 40a.... you will still only be using like 23a and it only draws what the element draws.
Your other choices are pricey.... you can get a 2 way switch with indicator light and two contractor which is safer and more reliable for $15-20 total and I strongly recommend a my pin TD4 pid if your concerned about saving some $$$ does everything the auger does for around $25.99 shipped from the states....
You can also use a bigger box so later when you want to add a separate pid for a desperate rims or herms coil or boil kettle you will be able to just add them.
Oh yeah....lots of better rtd probe options on eBay or amazon like the pt-100 for anywhere from $6 to $16 shipped
You can get USSR with heat sinks for about $11 shipped or buy the combo with the rtd and pid for like $40-45 shipped

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I may look into get a junction box instead that is larger. Also, I will probably get this welded into my keggle. And then cap it. Use propane until I can get this slowly piece together.

http://brewhardware.com/rimsherms-pa...6-elementparts

2. ETC4FYou want to have a 1.5" Triclover port welded into your vessel.

Model: ETC4F- This kit is the same as option 1, but also adds a 1.5" TC long ferrule (shown right) which you will have welded into a 1.5" hole in your vessel. While there has been some success with soldering these into vessels using hole-flaring techniques, these are only recommended to be TIG welded in for strength reasons. The vessel hole required is 1.5". $49

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I just pulled the trigger on getting a 1.5" TC long ferrule and the cap. I just picked up another keggle, so I'll have this ferrule and two 1/2" couplers tig welded into this keggle.

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An RTD probe is a better choice than a K type thermocouple for accuracy.

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An RTD probe is a better choice than a K type thermocouple for accuracy.
The PID I have linked up there says this. It mentions K type, not RTD.

Input sensor: K type thermocouple (sensor not included)
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The PID I have linked up there says this. It mentions K type, not RTD.

Input sensor: K type thermocouple (sensor not included)
The Auber 2352 will take an RTD, PT100 probe. The default setting when the unit is shipped is for a K type thermocouple.

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Main Specifications:


Input type
TC: K, E, S, WRe, J, T, B, N
RTD: Pt100, Cu50, 0-80 ohm, 0-400 ohm.
DC voltage:0~20 mV, 0-100 mv, 0~5V, 1~5V, 0~1V, -100~100mV, -20~20mV, -5~5V, 0.2~1V.
DC current: 4~20mA.

Input range
K (-60~2300ºF), S (-60~3100ºF), WRe (32~4150ºF), T (-330~660ºF), E (32~1500ºF),
J (32~1800ºF), B (32~3300ºF), N (32~2400ºF)Pt100 (-320~1100ºF), Cu50 (-60~300ºF)
Linear input: -1999~+9999 defined by user

Display
Two lines, Four digits. °F or °C.

Display Resolution
1°C and 0.1 °C. or 1°F

Accuracy
±0.2% or ±1 unit of full input range

Control mode
Fuzzy PID, Manual control, On-Off

Output mode
12V DC for external SSR

Alarm
Process high/low alarm, deviation high/low alarm

Alarm output
Relay contact: 1A at 240VAC, 3A at120VAC, or 3A at 24VAC

Power supply
voltage rating
85~264VAC/50~60Hz

Front panel
dimension
1.89 x 1.89", or 48 x 48 mm (1/16 DIN)

Default setting:
Input sensor: K type thermocouple (sensor not included).
Display Unit: Fahrenheit (°F)
Display resolution: 1 degree.
Alarm 1: Deviation low
Alarm 2: Deviation high

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Here's the link to their RTD sensors: http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...ex&cPath=20_15
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The Auber 2352 will take an RTD, PT100 probe. The default setting when the unit is shipped is for a K type thermocouple.

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Main Specifications:


Input type
TC: K, E, S, WRe, J, T, B, N
RTD: Pt100, Cu50, 0-80 ohm, 0-400 ohm.
DC voltage:0~20 mV, 0-100 mv, 0~5V, 1~5V, 0~1V, -100~100mV, -20~20mV, -5~5V, 0.2~1V.
DC current: 4~20mA.

Input range
K (-60~2300ºF), S (-60~3100ºF), WRe (32~4150ºF), T (-330~660ºF), E (32~1500ºF),
J (32~1800ºF), B (32~3300ºF), N (32~2400ºF)Pt100 (-320~1100ºF), Cu50 (-60~300ºF)
Linear input: -1999~+9999 defined by user

Display
Two lines, Four digits. °F or °C.

Display Resolution
1°C and 0.1 °C. or 1°F

Accuracy
±0.2% or ±1 unit of full input range

Control mode
Fuzzy PID, Manual control, On-Off

Output mode
12V DC for external SSR

Alarm
Process high/low alarm, deviation high/low alarm

Alarm output
Relay contact: 1A at 240VAC, 3A at120VAC, or 3A at 24VAC

Power supply
voltage rating
85~264VAC/50~60Hz

Front panel
dimension
1.89 x 1.89", or 48 x 48 mm (1/16 DIN)

Default setting:
Input sensor: K type thermocouple (sensor not included).
Display Unit: Fahrenheit (°F)
Display resolution: 1 degree.
Alarm 1: Deviation low
Alarm 2: Deviation high

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Here's the link to their RTD sensors: http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...ex&cPath=20_15
they all accept the Rtd even the cheapest Rex c100... I only use pt-100 rtd sensors in my build and they work fine and accuaratly with my Rex and my pin pids.
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Something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/Amico-Liquid-M...s=pt-100+probe

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thats exactly what I use....paid about the same for them too but I got the ones with longer 6ft cables.....
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