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Old 09-24-2013, 12:29 PM   #1
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So I have decided to take the plunge and go electric. I'm not really looking to go full automated but really just replace propane with electricity. After reading quite a bit of stuff it seems going with a 240V 5500W element is the prefered method of most.

I can't really find much on this basic of a setup. I am good with wiring although I do not have a ton of experience with residential wiring but I am friends with a licensed electrician. I've got a few questions for the experts out there.

Can I get away with only a 30amp breaker? My breaker box is literally 12" from the area where I plan to setup my kettle.

Will this kit cover all of the components I need for just the kettle (minus the element of course)?
http://www.stilldragon.com/diy-controller.html

Any tips or lessons learned you guys can share?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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Welcome to the fun! If you're only running a single 5500 w element, you should be fine.

If watts = amps x volts, a 5500 watt heating element should only draw about 23 amps with room to spare on a 30 amp circuit for a pump.

But, if you're ever looking to upgrade to two elements, you may want to run a 50A breaker. Also, whatever you run needs to be GFCI protected at the breaker or in line.

In regards to the kit, that will work if you're only using the element and have no need for a pump.

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I think if I add a pump I will just plug it into the existing 120 outlets. Are there any wiring diagrams out there for this simple of a setup?

Also, any preferences between 3-prong or 4-prong plugs?

I just came across a spare 3-prong 30 amp at work with about 4-5 of cable. Free is good

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Any tips or lessons learned you guys can share?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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I've done two brews on my electric brew setup so far. One thing that I kinda wish that I had done was to install the pump switches onto the brewing table, close to the pumps, instead of installing them onto the control panel. The switches would be a lot more useful if they were closer to the pumps.
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I think if I add a pump I will just plug it into the existing 120 outlets. Are there any wiring diagrams out there for this simple of a setup?

Also, any preferences between 3-prong or 4-prong plugs?

I just came across a spare 3-prong 30 amp at work with about 4-5 of cable. Free is good
You sure can. Lots of guys use old dryer outlets on here with no issue. Most of the newer systems will use the 4-prong style. Picking up a new cord off amazon is pretty cheap.

In regards to the diagram, I swear I recall seeing a P-J diagram with the bare bones setup still dragon uses but can't find it (HBT's search feature on the app is lacking to say the least).

Update: found this link that P-J had referenced before.

http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=332. I think this is pretty close to the right concept.
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Thanks! That looks really simple.



The load is just the element correct?

Also, I read a few things stating the kettle needs to be grounded. I can just run the ground to the control box and then to the kettle. Probably just pinched between the bulkhead fittings.

I always make things like this seem way more complicated than they actually are. I really appreciate all of the advise! The idea of having a light switch control the pump is pretty sweet and I will probably incoorporate it if I ever buy a pump

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So I drew this up pretty quick because I couldn't find exactly what I needed.

P-J, I snagged one of yours and edited. I hope you don't mind.

Can you guys look over it and let me know if there are any glaring mistakes?



If it is incorrect I will pull it down right away and edit it so no one uses it

Thanks in advance,

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So I drew this up pretty quick because I couldn't find exactly what I needed.

P-J, I snagged one of yours and edited. I hope you don't mind.

Can you guys look over it and let me know if there are any glaring mistakes?

If it is incorrect I will pull it down right away and edit it so no one uses it

Thanks in advance,

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Looks good to me.

BTW, No problems at all using one of my diagrams.

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So you are going to run your 5500w element at 120v, effectively yielding 1375w, correct? I see H-N-G in the diagram, with no second hot for 240v.

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No I plan on using 240. I have a few 3-prong plugs that I got for free at work that I plan on using

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