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Old 01-05-2012, 03:42 AM   #1
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Default Getting 240VAC outlet in kitchen .. oven outlet?

So I have a bit of a dilemma in that I live in a second story condo with no way to pull in a new 240 circuit to where I want to brew (my kitchen)

I have an electric kettle, but currently just with a 1500W element running of of a 120V circuit (slowww...)

I do however have an electric wall oven currently hardwired into a 240V 30A dedicated circuit. The junction box that the oven is hardwired into is in the cabinet next to the oven, so it's accessible. I was considering replacing the hardwired install with an outlet so that I can use it for electric brewing (i.e. unplug the oven from the outlet, plug in brewing rig, brew, then plug oven back in). The oven's instructions - and those of other ovens I looked at - specifically call for the oven to be hardwired. In my read of the NEC, it seemed a bit ambiguous about this, but I'm no electrician and before I call one to get clarification I thought I'd ask here to see whether anyone has any thoughts.

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Old 01-05-2012, 03:59 PM   #2
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If the box is right there, why not run another line just for brewing?

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Old 01-05-2012, 04:52 PM   #3
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You mean pigtail off it? I think the oven outlet has to be the only outlet on the circuit per nec. If I can't keep this to code I'll just plan to brew on 120 permanently and add a second element in my kettle / build a heat stick

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Built-in ovens are hard-wired because of the fact that they are "built-in". You can't simply slide them out to unplug like a dryer or range.

If you can access the junction box w/o having to move the oven, I'd slap a range cord on it and do what you want to.

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Out of interest do you know if HD or suchlike sell range extention cords and/or converters (ie pin patterns)?

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If you want to strictly adhere to code, NEC 110.3 (B) says "Listed or labeled equipment shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions included in the listing or labeling." If your oven specifically says it must to be hardwired (not may) then it has to be hardwired.

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If you want to strictly adhere to code, NEC 110.3 (B) says "Listed or labeled equipment shall be installed and used in accordance with any instructions included in the listing or labeling." If your oven specifically says it must to be hardwired (not may) then it has to be hardwired.
We are already installing water heater elements in cooking pots, cobbled together with non-standard parts.
What is one more foul against the NEC gonna matter?
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We are already installing water heater elements in cooking pots, cobbled together with non-standard parts.
What is one more foul against the NEC gonna matter?
OP said he wanted to stick to code, so I told him what the code is.
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I prefer to think of electrical codes as "Style Guidelines"! <G> 240 is just heavily hopped Imperial 120...

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Just slap in another breaker and run a line from it. Code also states your stove needs to be on its own circut if im not mistaken. So pig tailing would not be acceptable.

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