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Old 02-13-2011, 01:37 AM   #1
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Default Electrical Brewery Build, input please!

I am in the process of starting to acquire pieces for an all-electric keggle brewery. I am wanting a HERMS setup and will be utilizing some existing equipment. Here is a list of components that I have so far, please tell me what else I need, one of which is a control box I know.

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2 un-cut kegs
1 keggle with 1/2 barb & themometer (Brew Kettle)
False Bottom
March pump
Copper Heat Exchange
2 Ranco Controllers

What I Think I need
2 weldless ball valves
2 weldless thermowell kits for ranco controller probes
5 Quick Connector 1/2" MPT
3 Quick Connector Barbed
2 Quick Connector Barbed Elbow
1 Input manifold (Tee)
2 1/2" Ball-Valves
10 ft of 1/2" Braided Hose (ft.)
2 Sets of SS Hose Clamps (4 per Set)
2 Heating Elements w/ cord and plug (1 for HLT & 1 for Brew Kettle)
Electrical Box Control to plug everything into (I need direction here)

Can anybody give me some good advice. I can familar with electrical wiring and can do my own DIY. Just a good direction would be advantagous!

Thanks!

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Old 02-13-2011, 12:39 PM   #2
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http://theelectricbrewery.com/

I think this is what you need.
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Old 02-13-2011, 04:31 PM   #3
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you can't go wrong with Kal's website... shown above

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Old 02-13-2011, 04:38 PM   #4
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I would go with PID controllers and SSR's instead of those Ranco on/off controllers.

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Old 02-13-2011, 09:13 PM   #5
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I would go with PID controllers and SSR's instead of those Ranco on/off controllers.
I understand what you are saying, but I am looking for cost effective as well as something that is mobile/can be stored. I have seen Kal's website, and it is a very nice setup, just not what I am wanting.
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Using the Ranco instead of a pid/ssr will limit the wattage of your heating elements.
Ranco relay is rated as follows 120 vac = 16 amps or 240 vac = 8 amps
Either 120 vac or 240 vac - you will be limited to about 1800 watts for your elements. I don't that would work even for a 5 gallon batch.

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Using the Ranco instead of a pid/ssr will limit the wattage of your heating elements.
Ranco relay is rated as follows 120 vac = 16 amps or 240 vac = 8 amps
Either 120 vac or 240 vac - you will be limited to about 1800 watts for your elements. I don't that would work even for a 5 gallon batch.
Are you sure about that? Why would highgravity.com, show it as an option on their electric brewery page?
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I have a Ranco controller that I use on my freezer. It is model #ETC111000-000. I got the relay ratings from the owners manual. Math is pretty simple: 16*120=1920 watts. Plus, it has no manual control to use for a boil kettle. I am sure Ranco makes different controllers, perhaps they have controllers with higher ratings. If you look closely at the control box on the highgravitybrew.com website, it appears to have an SSR that is controlling the 240 vac element. It appears that Ranco controls the SSR.

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I understand what you are saying, but I am looking for cost effective as well as something that is mobile/can be stored. I have seen Kal's website, and it is a very nice setup, just not what I am wanting.
The PID from auber is $45 and the SSR can be had for cheap on flea bay
as for portability this can be accomplished check out some of the tool box control panels here on HBT

I incorporated many of Kals ideas without going quite that wild
it can and has been done
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Old 02-16-2011, 02:35 AM   #10
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Okay, so lets just do this, tell me what to build that has the following components and is cheap as possible and electric. You see what I have above and will only be primary doing 5 gallon batches.

1 - HERMS setup
2 - electric hlt and boil
3 - March pump

Can anybody show me a setup for this, with the control box under say $300?

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