electric equipment start up costs
Ok minus the hardware that needs to be bought alongside the electric brew system like kettles and pumps and such.
What kind of costs will I be looking at for the elements, controllers, wires, fuses, contactors and box. mainly I'm wondering what the working control box and elements add up to? (ballpark of course)
I am not too worried about how it looks more worried that it works and I can pass the budget committee (aka swmbo)
Or... sneak it all past SWMBO? That's the only thing that seems to work for me. Most of the time anyway.
I wish I had more to offer you in answer to your question, but I too am just starting to accumulate parts for a build and have no idea what it will end up costing (and in some ways I don't want to know).
So far...steel for stand..$80, pump (from eBay a couple years ago <$20, keg (couple of years ago too, I think ~$35, cooler I had already, spa disconnect $50, 4-wire dryer outlet $20ish, fifty feet of 10-3 wire-$30, ticket for expired inspection sticker I got while picking up the 10-3 from a craigslister-$50.
I think I'm going to buy the fittings to convert the cooler to a MT today.
Depends on the details of the system...
But I'd say just for the Control Box on Kal's www.electricbrewery.com site you are estimating $500-1000 ($100 box, $400 electric components, $200 for the jacks, $100 HSink, $200 misc...yeah that's a good estimate)
Then there are the actual kettles pumps and hardware etc...I estimated around $2500-$3000 total project budget + cost of electrician for breakbox work)
It's like a Ferrari. I have a Honda.
It's a simple electric HERMS system capable of doing 10 gallon batches, using a single electric element. I did not keep every single receipt for every single thing, but the total cost was less than $500.
- little giant pump
- stainless fittings and welding work on a keggle
- heater element
- control box and everything in it (PID + SSR + heatsink + outlets + power cables and distribution + switches + lights + etc + etc)
- hard copper pipe for some of the plumbing (cause it was cheaper than the freaking silicon hose)
- ball valves
- 50A gfi breaker + an electrician to install it and an outlet in the garage
I did already have some things that became used in the system, like the keggles, a table to sit everything on, and a copper coil (my old chiller, convered to HERMS coil).
I have to agree with Walker on this one..Kal's system is the ultimate. It's what you can do and can spend if you have a very large budget. On my budget (I drive a 95 Lumina I got for free) the goal is to make a decent system that makes good beer for the absolute minimum expenditure.
It's all going to come down to what you want...or if budget is a concern, what your minimums are
Then you can build a cost from there...
This reminds me of a friend who used to give Auto-Body estimates of $50,000 to anyone who asked "How much would ____ cost?"
His reason..."if I don't see it I can't be certain, but chances are $50k will cover it"
Off the top of my head, just for the power work in the house and up to the control box (everything includes shipping):
$35 - steel enclosure
$30 - PID
$15 - 40A SSR w/ heatsink
$21 - Pt100 RTD in thermowell (temp probe)
$10 - panel mount quick disconnect for temp probe
$9 - 40A 2-pole contactor
$40 - primary power cable from wall
$35 - 50A GFI breaker
$100 - electrician to install breaker and outlet
$11 - outlets on control box for kettle and pump and outlet on the wall
$25 - power cable from panel to kettle element
$15 - heater element
$20 - stainless fittings for element + 2 couplings for e-kettle
$45 - welding work on kettle
$20 - switches, lights, little breakers/fuses, DIY pulse width modulator, power distribution inside box
$10 - misc wires and spade connectors for wiring work
That comes to a little less than $450, so I guess I am closer to $600 for the whole system when you add the pump and copper plumbing that I did.
Note, I went overboard on a few things (like that primary input power cable), but I also got great deals on a few things (like the enclosure and GFI breaker), so it all works out.
Damn I must have got rooked on some of my stuff...hell shipping was more expensive than $20 for all my switches and stuff
Ah well...I'll just overcharge someone on an install or something
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