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Old 01-22-2012, 08:02 PM   #471
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Thanks guys - I appreciate it! That helps me understand a bit more about the balance of the two phases.

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Old 01-24-2012, 12:29 PM   #472
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I need a little help with some switches. I saw these on a fellow HBers build and needed a little help understanding the lingo.

What I am looking for:
1. 120v switch
2. illuminates when in the on position, no illumination in the off position.
3. Static switch (I believe the correct term for that is "maintained"). i.e. there is no spring mechanism on the switch. I turn it left or right and it stays where I dial it to.
4. Based on the electric brewery site I think I am looking for N.O. (normally opened)contact block.

Is this the switch for me?

Appreciate the help, I am trying to upgrade my lingo with switches so I am not so apprehensive to buy them


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Answer from PJ on another thread:

#1 - This depends on how you wire the indicator lamp. If you wire it from the switch load side (through the lamp to neutral) it will be on only when the switch is on. If you wire it from the power input side it will be always on.
#2 - That particular switch is a maintained switch. (No spring return.)


...trying to keep this information together for my build

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Old 01-24-2012, 01:53 PM   #473
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I did some toying with my faceplate control panel layout. So I attached a picture of what I came up with.

I still have yet to decide if I will suck it up and buy a big heat sink, or keep with the smaller sinks I have and use fan. If I do go the fan route I have decided that I will wire in the fan to the element hot side of the 120 lines coming out of the contactor. This way, the fan will be triggered on whenever an element is fired and it won't require a separate switch on the face plate.

The on/off power to each element will be controlled by a contactor.

I still have to decide if I want the ventilation fan to be separate or included in the control panel. So that is TBD as well.

I have toyed with the idea of an overhead swing arm light (for basement brewing). That may be a part of the panel too. Still some thinking to be done on if that makes sense or not. Pretty easy to keep those parts separate. Let me know what you guys think.

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Old 01-31-2012, 03:26 PM   #474
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So I got a heck of a deal on ebay on some things and it totally will change out my layout and switches.

Bought myself a 16x12x8 enclosure and a ton of the basic switches, individual lights and a couple more contactors. Last night I put in my order for more terminal blocks so it looks like I will be able to start the fabrication of the box sooner than expected.

Pictures to follow in the coming days for sure!

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Old 01-31-2012, 05:03 PM   #475
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Just curious - is there any reason to trhow out the back plate on this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...d=788559233001

(this is the enclosure I bought)

I was thinking that it would be nice to be able to tap in all the components (terminal bus, contactors, etc.) to the plate and leave it in the box. Does anyone see a problem with that?

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Old 01-31-2012, 05:18 PM   #476
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that link isn't working for me.. but I used a similar enclosure for mine.

what else would you do with the back plate? I did exactly what you mentioned, I screwed my DIN rails, terminal blocks, contactors, etc. to the backplate. That's what it's for right?

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that link isn't working for me.. but I used a similar enclosure for mine.

what else would you do with the back plate? I did exactly what you mentioned, I screwed my DIN rails, terminal blocks, contactors, etc. to the backplate. That's what it's for right?
Try this link

Well in the electric brewery instructions they throw it out, and in the minigraphic on this listing they show you removing and throwing it out.

For me I was like... duh! I don't want screws sticking out the back unless I have to! I will use it as I intended. Sounds like this is a personal preference.
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Still confused..
On the website, it clearly shows his components mounted to the backplate...

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Ha ! I swear I am not crazy, ok maybe a wee bit. You are right about electric brewery - I screwed up there and completely blame that fabrication on my brain. But look at this odd jpeg screen shot from that ebay posting. I take this as, pull out metal back plate and toss to garbage. weird, but I am going to use it to hold components.

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No, it says to toss the standoff covers into the garbage. Your panel should have had these plastic caps over the four backplate standoffs and the grounding posts. They're trivial, toss 'em and install the backplate.

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