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Old 11-25-2012, 02:07 PM   #11
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Default What a great simple setup

I'm planning the same thing and this helps a lot to visualize what I need vs what I want. $2k for controls when I have no plans to grow beyond biab is ridiculous (but BOY would I love one of Kal's boxes!) I've got to get over the idea of "building for the future" and keep it simple.

Thanks for a great thread.

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Old 11-25-2012, 06:03 PM   #12
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I'm planning the same thing and this helps a lot to visualize what I need vs what I want. $2k for controls when I have no plans to grow beyond biab is ridiculous (but BOY would I love one of Kal's boxes!) I've got to get over the idea of "building for the future" and keep it simple.

Thanks for a great thread.
This is my problem. I always dream of having a Kal Clone setup, but then after every BIAB, I realize I can make some awesome beers this way, and love the simplicity.

My goal is to have a setup like this BIAB setup, but I'm focusing on fermentation before I upgrade my brewing equipment anymore. Oxygenation, yeast starters, and temp control get the next upgrades.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:34 PM   #13
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Good plan.
The electric part of eBIAB helps with repeatability and convenience but you can achieve the same result (good all grain beer) with a stock pot, a bag, and a $50 propane burner.

FYI, my fermentation temp control setup is a swamp cooler + an acquarium heater, about $30 total.

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Old 11-25-2012, 07:13 PM   #14
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Good plan.
The electric part of eBIAB helps with repeatability and convenience but you can achieve the same result (good all grain beer) with a stock pot, a bag, and a $50 propane burner.

FYI, my fermentation temp control setup is a swamp cooler + an acquarium heater, about $30 total.
When I give up this type of work and will be home every night the swamp cooler could work for me but right now I work from home 3 weeks at a time.

My basement sits at about 16-18 degrees Celsius, I ferment everything I make @ those temps.
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Old 11-29-2012, 09:20 PM   #15
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FYI, The calculated the mash efficiency on my first eBIAB all grain batch at 80%. I think that dialing in the grain mill and temp control during the mash both helped significantly. Looking forward to a strong batch of AHS Holiday Ale.

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Old 11-29-2012, 10:00 PM   #16
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FYI, The calculated the mash efficiency on my first eBIAB all grain batch at 80%. I think that dialing in the grain mill and temp control during the mash both helped significantly. Looking forward to a strong batch of AHS Holiday Ale.
Awesome job! That's great numbers!
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Old 12-02-2012, 04:40 PM   #17
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I received the same enclosure in the mail yesterday. It's actually smaller than it looks. -I'm doing a 2 element, 240v, 2 pump build so I need a lot more contactors/relays (and they're pretty big); I also really NEED a heat sink for my SSRs as there's just going to be a lot more energy going through them. It's going to be a really, REALLY tight fit and I'm going to have to plan the internal layout VERY carefully. I don't think I can even accommodate the blade connectors attaching to my PID controller as I really need the room in the box...

I'm also flabbergasted that the box didn't come with a back panel.

I'm also dealing with 240v 50 amp service coming into the box and the only connector I've found that will support it is just HUGE and takes up a ton of precious space in that box... I do like it but I wish I would've planned a bit better (I see you made a number of design trade-offs that make your system perfect for a box this size.) -The low power pump, as one example.


So what tools did you use to cut the square holes in the box?
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:41 AM   #18
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I use stepbit and jigsaw for square holes. Plastic is easy to work with.

External heats sink will save some space. I also use 30 amp power relays. Hard wired power cord and speakon type connectors for elements will help.

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Old 12-03-2012, 01:58 PM   #19
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Check out the auberins control panel with built in heats sink and 3x PID cutouts. Most people are using a 12x16 or 16x16 enclosure for a complex 50amp build. The small panel I used is great for a simple eBIAB setup.

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Old 12-27-2012, 05:05 PM   #20
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Attached my control panel to a small stand. Makes a compact eBIAB setup.

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