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Old 10-16-2012, 08:01 PM   #1
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Hey all, Long time lurker, new member here!

I've used this site since I started brewing for recipes, and now it's time I got involved.

At first glance, I thought this would be a simple plug-n-play system. Boy was I wrong!

I'm going to be building a basic 1 kettle (80q aluminum) e-BIAB system using an existing 220v 30A dryer outlet. I've attached a very basic representation of the system. I'll use a PID to monitor mash temps, and a march pump for recirculation and counterflow chilling.

Please take a look and make any suggestions! I don't want the full automation, but I can't seem to find any way around the PID either. I'll need advice on what PID to use, and what thermoprobe works with it.

I'll be checking back on this all the time, so please leave any questions or comments. I'll need a wiring diagram in the future, but please don't make anything for me as of now. I want to make sure this is the right setup before any of you go out of your way for me *cough* PJ *cough*.

You guys have done awesome work, and I'm really looking forward to this build.


Thanks in advance, and happy brewing!

`Sickles

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Old 10-16-2012, 08:06 PM   #2
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I just realized that the links don't work in a picutre. Silly me.

Here they are:
Stock Pot
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Pump
Ball Valve
3 Way Valve

Thanks!

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Old 10-16-2012, 08:28 PM   #3
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I strongly recommend that you choose the Auber Instruments PID SYL-2352 along with their RTD Sensor with Weldless Fitting & Deluxe Cable option.

There are a lot of other products that you can get from them that will make your life a lot easier in your planning and your build.
Project box, SSR, SSR heat sink, switches, contactors and lots more.

You got me for the diagram. I just need your plan.

By the way... Welcome Aboard. I sincerely hope that you enjoy participating here.

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Fantastic. I'll add those to my project product list.

One quick question. I would be safe if I replaced the current breaker with a identically rated GFCI breaker, right? Assuming it is .5ms response time....

I just want to know in case I find one that would fit my panel. Me thinks it would be easier than installing the spabox.

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Fantastic. I'll add those to my project product list.

One quick question. I would be safe if I replaced the current breaker with a identically rated GFCI breaker, right? Assuming it is .5ms response time....

I just want to know in case I find one that would fit my panel. Me thinks it would be easier than installing the spabox.
Short answer - yes.

Just keep in mind that you don't want to have a very long walk somewhere to reset it. Reason? You would really hesitate tripping it when things "seem" to be going wrong. If it is close - no problem...

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Another option for the RTD sensor is to use it with a sight glass with a tee (one hole in the kettle gets you your sight glass and your temperature probe). In that case, you would want something more like this: http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=270

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Another option for the RTD sensor is to use it with a sight glass with a tee (one hole in the kettle gets you your sight glass and your temperature probe). In that case, you would want something more like this: http://www.auberins.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=270
Good call on that one as a really long probe would be required.

I like that setup. Looks nice. Thanks.
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Thanks for the reasoning.
I have a 4 pronged dryer outlet. Could I just get another 4 pronged male cord, and run that directly into the spa box? My goal is to be able to flip the breaker, unplug the dryer, plug in the brewery, and reset the breaker.

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Good insight. I like that design a lot! I'll modify my drawing to incorporate it. What diameter sight glass is normally used? I see that the probe has 1/2" NPT threading, so I'd have to go with a fitting like this, right?

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What do you guys think of a bulkhead/valve like this one? Do you think something like this would work with a 4 gauge (~.2") aluminum pot?

Is it worth it to get a total unit like this, or buy each piece individually?

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Take a look at www.brewhardware.com and www.bargainfittings.com for sight glass kits, various weldless fittings, etc.

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