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Old 03-06-2013, 05:46 PM   #41
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I was considering making a similar whirlpool arm. Did your pump have enough power to create a good whirlpool and trub cone at the bottom of the kettle? I use an immersion cooler so hopping it has enough strength to cut down on my cooling time.
It did create a nice whirlpool, but alas, no trub cone, probably from the elements being in the way. This would definitely speed up cooling with an IC.

Interestingly, I had a lot less trub in my fermentor from this batch than usual - no more than an inch at the bottom of the bucket, and most of it yeast. I bag my hops, and I did not squeeze the grain bag (I used to with my old system), so I attribute this lack of trub to clearer wort going into the kettle.

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Awesome setup. Makes me want to reconsider converting the 3 kegs I have into BK/MLT/HLT and just copy your build! How much do you think you have into the build so far?
Thanks! I believe I'm somewhere around $800 or so, not including tools; I'm going to post a parts list for my build so you can see what's involved.


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Old 03-06-2013, 05:50 PM   #42
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Ok, so here's the parts list for my build for anyone wanting to duplicate this system. Quantities noted where applicable.

Amazon.com

62 qt Bayou Classic SS Kettle with basket (actually bought used, but Amazon has the best deal on them)
US Wire 65050 12/3 50-Foot SJTW Orange Heavy Duty Extension Cord
AC Infinity LS9225A-X Standard Cooling Fan

eBrewSupply.com

220v 40a, 110v Coil, Contactor qty:2
40a Solid State Relay SSR qty:2
2-Way, 1 NO Contact, Switch
Mushroom Button, NO Contact
Flashing Buzzer
Add on NO Contact

BargainFittings.com

NEW - KEG Weldless Bulkhead Kit
- Inside the vessel fitting STREET 90 - 1/2" NPT
- Valve 2 - piece SS ball valve
- Hose Barb (valve outlet) <NONE>
1/2" SS Camlock F style fitting Quick Disconnect qty: 3
1/2" SS Camlock D style fitting Quick Disconnect qty: 1
1/2" SS Camlock B Style Quick Disconnect qty: 4
1/2" SS Camlock A Style Quick Disconnect qty: 2
1/2" NPT SS 2 piece ball valve qty: 1
1" Stainless Locknut and o-ring kit qty: 2
Weldless thermometer sight gauge kit
- Vessel: Keg or kettle
Silicone Tubing 1/2" ID x 3/4" OD qty: 12 ft
1/2" SS Camlock Dust Cap Style Quick Disconnect qty: 1

BrewHardware.com

Mash recirculation tube w/camlock
Sight glass calibration decals

eBay.com

2 x Panel Mount Fuse Holder For M205 5x20mm Fuses
10PCS Metal Film Resistor 1 Watt 1W 1K ohm
10 Pcs 5x20mm Quick Fast Blow Type 1A 1 AMP 110-240V Glass Tube Fuses
Aluminum Large Rectangle Heatsink

Auberins.com

1/16 DIN PID Temperature Controller (SSR control output)
Item #: SYL-2352

Illuminated Maintained Pushbutton Switch, 2 NO, 22mm. 120/240V qty: 2
Item #: SW1 LED Color Option - Green

Illuminated Maintained Pushbutton Switch, 2 NO, 22mm. 120/240V qty: 2
Item #: SW1 LED Color Option - Blue

Liquid tight RTD sensor, 4 in, 1/2 NPT Thread
Item #: PT100-L100NPT Cable Option - Deluxe Cable

Box for 1/16 DIN controller
Item #: Pbox16

McMaster.com

Multipurpose Silicone Adhesive/Sealant 2.8 oz Tube, Translucent
18-8 Stainless Steel Wide-Rim Shim .075" Thick, 1-1/2" ID, 2-1/4" OD qty: 2

BostonHeatingSupply.com

Rheem SP10868GL 120V 2000W Stainless Steel Element qty: 2

GreatBreweh.com

Brewery Pump

DudaDiesel.com

B3-12A 20 Plate Beer Wort Garden Hose Chiller

Menards

4" x 2" Handy Box Extension qty: 3
4" x 2" Handy Box Cover, Blank qty: 4
3/8" Romex Connectorm 10 pcs
1" Romex Connector
Plug Straight Blade 20A, 125V qty: 4
20A Commercial Grade Outlet
Terminal Block, 6 Pole
1/2" copper tubing
90 degree 1/2" copper elbows qty: 4
Plumbers Silicone Tape
5/8" x 25' Medium Duty Garden Hose

Harbor Freight

520 Piece Terminal Set
127 Piece Heat Shrink Tubing Set
100 Piece Zip Ties



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Old 03-06-2013, 11:15 PM   #43
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id be interested in hearing how that pump works.

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Old 03-07-2013, 12:35 PM   #44
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id be interested in hearing how that pump works.
Well... there's the pump inlet that connects to a ball valve on the kettle, then there's a magnetically driven impeller that pushes fluid through the outlet with another ball valve... Oh, wait, did you mean how it performed? If that's the case, I am very happy with the GreatBrewEh.com pump - it's tiny, practically silent and pushes wort through very well, even when pumping through the plate chiller and a whirlpool arm. When mashing, I have to throttle it down with the outlet ball valve about half closed, otherwise it empties the space under the basket.

Mine was the new model with SS NPT connectors - so no threading problems like their earlier BSP pumps.
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Well... there's the pump inlet that connects to a ball valve on the kettle, then there's a magnetically driven impeller that pushes fluid through the outlet with another ball valve... Oh, wait, did you mean how it performed? If that's the case, I am very happy with the GreatBrewEh.com pump - it's tiny, practically silent and pushes wort through very well, even when pumping through the plate chiller and a whirlpool arm. When mashing, I have to throttle it down with the outlet ball valve about half closed, otherwise it empties the space under the basket.

Mine was the new model with SS NPT connectors - so no threading problems like their earlier BSP pumps.
... ass. that's my kind of response

i have a SS chugger i use but adding this i could recirculate water in my herms/hlt. only real reason i need for two pumps.
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So, speaking of the pump... mine abruptly died in the middle of brewing today... Luckily I have already started to recirculate boiling wort through my plate chiller, so it was sanitized, and I was able to gravity feed into the fermenter.

Checked the power supply, it had 12v, so it's gotta be the pump itself. Took it apart, no jams... The motor just won't start. Guess we'll see how good GreatBrewEh warranty service is...

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Cool build.

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So, I retested the pump today, and it's working... Makes me think that somehow I tripped thermal protection... But how? The pump is rated to 230F.

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Not sure about the thermal protection, but I know I've had my pump (not from greatbreweh, but the probably the same manufacturer) "die" on me once or twice when i was testing my system. I walked away from it and I think it lost siphon and ran dry for a short while, causing it to turn off. Is it possible something like that happened? Mine worked just fine once I turned if off then on making sure to restart the siphon.

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Not sure about the thermal protection, but I know I've had my pump (not from greatbreweh, but the probably the same manufacturer) "die" on me once or twice when i was testing my system. I walked away from it and I think it lost siphon and ran dry for a short while, causing it to turn off. Is it possible something like that happened? Mine worked just fine once I turned if off then on making sure to restart the siphon.
It definitely did not behave like that - it would not turn back on until several hours later. GreatBrewEh responded saying they have seen this happen with pumps attached directly to the kettle. I wonder if there's some cavitation created by vigorously boiling wort entering the pump? I'm going to run some tests with water to see if I can replicate this issue.


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