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09-07-2011, 02:33 PM
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Couple quick questions regaridng electric brewing, heating elements, etc.
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Still playing with my new toys and everything looks promising. But I do have a few questions (observations) from my test runs.
- I have yet to run an auto-tune on my 2352 PID, but I did do a boil/ice water test. I'm not sure if these are appropriate for an RTD but I figured what the hell. I set the Sv to 225F and let it go. The Pv maxed at 211F and dipped to 210F on an ocassion during a full boil. I then submerged the RTD in crushed ice and water for 15 mins. It held steady at 32F. Acceptable?
- I am seeing a LOT more steam than I ever did with a propane boil. Is this normal with an element? It could be just because I have the BK in the back of the garage now where it would normally be closer to the garage door. It could also be because I had a much mnore agressive boil than I would normally have. Just curious if anyone else has had teh same experience.
- I'm getting a slight odor from the water at mash temps and during the boil with the element that I can say I never had with propane. It's hard to describe...kinda metallic. Maybe due to the anode? Or is this just a by-product of the element. Any concerns?
TIA!
John
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09-07-2011, 02:42 PM
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1: sounds perfect (more perfect than mine!)
2: 2 things going on here: 1, you are probably boiling off more than you did with propane, and 2: the flames and heat that used to rush up the sides of your keggle might have carried the steam away before; you don't have that now
3: Maybe the odor of the propane burning previously covered this metalic odor you're getting. I have not experienced any type of off flavor or odor or anything with my setup.
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09-07-2011, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by passedpawn
1: sounds perfect (more perfect than mine!)
2: 2 things going on here: 1, you are probably boiling off more than you did with propane, and 2: the flames and heat that used to rush up the sides of your keggle might have carried the steam away before; you don't have that now
3: Maybe the odor of the propane burning previously covered this metalic odor you're getting. I have not experienced any type of off flavor or odor or anything with my setup.
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Thx pass.
So, when it comes to auto-tune, do I have it right...
Fill BK with tap water...
Set Sv to mash temp (~155).
Apply heat.
Start AT.
Let it run.
Or do you bring the water up to mash temp first and then start AT?
Thx!
John
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09-07-2011, 03:43 PM
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I use secondaries. :p
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heat the water close to your desired set-point first, and then start the auto-tune process. i've done it a couple of ways, and that way worked the best and the fastest.
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09-07-2011, 03:50 PM
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my PID worked much, much better after auto-tuning. I was surprised. I don't think it overshoots at all now.
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09-08-2011, 11:47 AM
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Thanks again guys!
I performed my auto-tune last night. Added 8 gal. of water and set my Sv to 152 and recirculated for abolut 10 mins. I then kicked on the auto-tune and continued to recirculate the entire time since I will be doing the same with my mash.
Temp never overshot and held steady @ 152F for the length of the tuning. Only once or twice I saw it jump to 153F but it immediately came back to 152F. So, if I wanted to be nit-picky, I could probably say that I had a .75F swing when the element would kick on. I can live with that.
Auto-tune took only about 15 minutes.
First official electric BIAB session is scheduled for this weekend. Can't wait!!!
Thanks for the help.
John
ps. I have now run 4 fake sessions through my kettle with the anode and not a single sign of rust.
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09-08-2011, 02:07 PM
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I have now run 4 fake sessions through my kettle with the anode and not a single sign of rust.
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I've run at least 50 batches on mine without a drop of rust. I have an element in my HLT and BK. And, I keep them outside (but under a covered patio) here in humid Florida. Go figure.
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09-08-2011, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by passedpawn
I've run at least 50 batches on mine without a drop of rust. I have an element in my HLT and BK. And, I keep them outside (but under a covered patio) here in humid Florida. Go figure.
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Honestly, I never tried without the anode so I don't know what my results would be.
John
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09-08-2011, 02:40 PM
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BTW...I haven't even brewed yet with my electric setup and I am already loving it!!! 
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09-08-2011, 05:24 PM
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You got it going on, man. Good job.
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