Electric Brewing Supply 30A BCS Giveaway!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Electric Brewing > Building an electric brewery using 120V
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-04-2012, 02:38 PM   #1
CCS813
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 4
Default Building an electric brewery using 120V

So I have been homebrewing for just over a year now. I have been doing AG on my turkey fryer but now want to transition to electric. Right now I rent so I can not install any new fixtures so I was thinking about going the 120V route.

My questions are 1.)can I use 2, 2000W elements in the same BK to get the boil needed, 2.) can those elements run off the same plug plugged into the same circuit, 3.) can they be controlled by the PID, & 4.) can that PID & the elements be plugged in together?

I know I have a lot of questions and I appreciate all the help I can get.

-Chris

__________________
CCS813 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-04-2012, 03:00 PM   #2
wilserbrewer
BIAB Expert Tailor
HBT_SPONSOR.png
Vendor Ads 
Feedback Score: 9 reviews
 
wilserbrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Jersey Shore, Jersey
Posts: 6,994
Liked 506 Times on 420 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

1. yes
2. No! you will need 2 separate 120v 20 amp circuits
3. Since separate circuits, control would be separate. Or you could run one element controlled, and one at 100% to provide variable power 2000-4000w.

wilserbrewer is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-04-2012, 03:08 PM   #3
jammin
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
jammin's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Meridian, ID
Posts: 1,312
Liked 206 Times on 162 Posts
Likes Given: 136

Default

^correct.

110v limits your batch size for sure.

Here is a cool build thread for a 2.5/3 gallon 110v kit controlled by PID -

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f170/110...atches-341219/

I just built one myself and am very happy with it's performance. I can use it indoors and watch football while I'm brew'n

__________________
jammin is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-04-2012, 03:14 PM   #4
wilserbrewer
BIAB Expert Tailor
HBT_SPONSOR.png
Vendor Ads 
Feedback Score: 9 reviews
 
wilserbrewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Jersey Shore, Jersey
Posts: 6,994
Liked 506 Times on 420 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jammin View Post
110v limits your batch size for sure.
I guess it does, but FWIW I have recently have done several 15 gal batches, around 19 gal. preboil w/ 2, 2000w elements using 120v.

Just need more circuits if using lower voltage IME.
wilserbrewer is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-04-2012, 04:44 PM   #5
jammin
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
jammin's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Meridian, ID
Posts: 1,312
Liked 206 Times on 162 Posts
Likes Given: 136

Default

^dang! I stand corrected. 15 gallons on 110 - sweet!

__________________
jammin is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-05-2012, 10:09 AM   #6
CCS813
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 4
Default

Thanks, Jammin for that thread. That's pretty much what I am looking to build. I'm thinking I'll use the 2 element drawing to get a rolling boil quicker then turn one element off & maintain it. I'm also thinking about adding a second PID with it's own element & switch for the HLT. This whole set up will be plugged into 3 outlets.

Those drawings were really detailed. I got a little confused with the first one regarding the contactor & resistor. Do I need both of them if I use the second drawing?

Thanks again for the help.

__________________
CCS813 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-05-2012, 12:52 PM   #7
wyzazz
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Atwater, OH
Posts: 4,266
Liked 41 Times on 40 Posts
Likes Given: 49

Default

1. Yes, you can even use 2x 1500W elements and leave them on full blast for the boil if you're only doing 5-6 gallon batches. I did this for quite a while.
2. As stated above, no. You will need 2 separate 15 or 20A GFCI protected circuits.
3. Yes.
4. Yes, there should be enough wiggle room for that, you should also be able to run a pump if needed.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revvy View Post
And I'd like to see my 1.080 beers ready from grain to glass in a week, and served to me by red-headed twin penthouse pets wearing garter belts and fishnet stockings, with Irish accents, calling me "master luv gun," but we can't always get what we want can we? :)
wyzazz is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 09-05-2012, 01:07 PM   #8
thargrav
Registered User
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Huntsville, Alabama
Posts: 821
Liked 38 Times on 35 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

The best 120V solution is to combine your stove top with a 120V brew controller. Your stove top will not bring 7 gallons to a boil but the combination of your stove top + a 1650 watt brew controller will boil 7 gallons & will provide the control you need to manage foam.


Quote:
Originally Posted by CCS813 View Post
So I have been homebrewing for just over a year now. I have been doing AG on my turkey fryer but now want to transition to electric. Right now I rent so I can not install any new fixtures so I was thinking about going the 120V route.

My questions are 1.)can I use 2, 2000W elements in the same BK to get the boil needed, 2.) can those elements run off the same plug plugged into the same circuit, 3.) can they be controlled by the PID, & 4.) can that PID & the elements be plugged in together?

I know I have a lot of questions and I appreciate all the help I can get.

-Chris
__________________
thargrav is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Building new stand, changing plan from propane to electric and need help vaheel Electric Brewing 22 02-12-2012 12:50 AM
120v Hybrid Electric Brewery CoalCracker Electric Brewing 4 12-13-2011 01:14 PM
Dual 120V Electric BIAB schmoe Electric Brewing 7 10-26-2011 03:01 PM
My Super Mini Single Element 120V ULC (ultra low cost) Electric Setup ryclo Electric Brewing 28 07-20-2011 01:36 AM
120v Electric 5 gal Brewery wh4tig0t Electric Brewing 13 04-08-2011 03:41 PM