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Old 01-27-2014, 01:12 AM   #1
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Hey guys. It's been a while since I have posted on HBT but I have been busy with the wife and new son. So I have been brewing about 2 years on my Kal type system and I love it. However, I have had mild rusting on my HLT element since the get go. I think it screwed up my first two batches on the system back in the day and just the other day I finally got fed up with it after my last brew, ripped the element out and bent it in half in the bench vise to make my decision final. I had tried coating it with POR-15 twice and each time the POR-15 gets stripped off by the SS nut that goes over top and leads to more rust. I have read multiple other threads and have come to the conclusion (so far) that there are no great solutions to this rusting problem. So I'm looking at the following options......

1. Coat a regular element base in food grade silicone and see if that fixes it.

2. Install a magnesium anode.

3. Buy an element from Brewmation with a stainless base at $60 for the 5500watt element.
http://www.brewmation.com/Heating_Elements.html

I'm kind of at the point where I'm tired of screwing around with these rusting elements so I am leaning toward purchasing the all stainless element and being done with it. However, I can't really find much info about the elements anywhere. Their website doesn't provide much info and I never received a response to the questions I sent them. Has anyone tried these elements? Are they of good quality to the element itself and the base material? Has anyone tried using silicone or magnesium anodes and found they still didn't work? Any input would be helpful.... carry on.

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I just bought 2 from Brewmation but haven't started brewing on them yet. What an extra few bucks when you have the kind of money into a Kal type system? Worth it to me.

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I just bought 2 from Brewmation but haven't started brewing on them yet. What an extra few bucks when you have the kind of money into a Kal type system? Worth it to me.
Sure the extra money is completely fine if they are of decent quality. I just don't want to waste money on a product I haven't heard much about and can't seem to get answers from the company about. If the 430 stainless on them is good and the element itself performs well I would be in for one to try it.
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Sure the extra money is completely fine if they are of decent quality. I just don't want to waste money on a product I haven't heard much about and can't seem to get answers from the company about. If the 430 stainless on them is good and the element itself performs well I would be in for one to try it.
I've read some threads on Kal's site where people tried the all stainless base and it didn't rust. Definitely worth it for me to go that way from the start. The makers of my kettles also recommended them so that was a step in the right direction to me as well.
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I've read some threads on Kal's site where people tried the all stainless base and it didn't rust. Definitely worth it for me to go that way from the start. The makers of my kettles also recommended them so that was a step in the right direction to me as well.
That's good to know and helpful. It's strange but my boil kettle never had any rust problems after I put the POR 15 on. I think the threads on the other element were just a little tighter and the coating kept getting stripped off each time I installed the element. Either way I wouldn't go the POR-15 route again because now I worry if I ever take the other element assembly apart for maintenance that it will rust as well.
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I've read some threads on Kal's site where people tried the all stainless base and it didn't rust. Definitely worth it for me to go that way from the start. The makers of my kettles also recommended them so that was a step in the right direction to me as well.

If the maker of your kettle is Stout that makes sense. The full brew house setups that Brewmation sells use Stout kettles.
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Yes I have Stout kettles.

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Amazon has the 6000w SS ones a ton cheaper

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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I don't believe the bases on the Camco elements are SS and that's where they rust. The Brewmation elements, including the base, is all SS so people don't experience the rust issues with hem.

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Why not use a kettle style element? They are cheap and 100% stainless.

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