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Old 11-21-2012, 05:36 PM   #1
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Default 5500w ULD element taking too long to heat

I have a 5500w uld element in my boil kettle with 7 gallons of water.
PID is a 2352 from Auberin.
RTD is a Pt100 RTD
Sn set to 21.

Set the controller to 165 to simulate strike water for my mash. It has been 50 minutes and it just hit 145.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 11-21-2012, 05:37 PM   #2
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what temp is your water starting at?

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what temp is your water starting at?
70F. 15 gallon pot.
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Have you confirmed your element is actually getting 240v across the two terminals?

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Have you confirmed your element is actually getting 240v across the two terminals?
No. How would I confirm this?
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Do you have a multimeter or other type of gauge that will measure voltage? With the element powered on and your meter set to read Voltage (AC), touch one probe to one of the screws on the element, touch the other probe to the second. It should read between 220-240.

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My guess is that you're only getting on leg powered, and the other is a neutral or some other return (possibly in a bad way). If your element is rated at 240v and is only getting 120v, then you're only getting 1/4 of the actual power to that element, which would be around the equivelent of a 1300 watt element, which is not enough for a 7 gallon boil.

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My guess is that you're only getting on leg powered, and the other is a neutral or some other return (possibly in a bad way). If your element is rated at 240v and is only getting 120v, then you're only getting 1/4 of the actual power to that element, which would be around the equivelent of a 1300 watt element, which is not enough for a 7 gallon boil.
I haven't tried to boil yet. Still holding at 165F. Trying to get my PID switched to manual mode to try and boil but not having any luck. Anyone care to chime in on this also.

I do not have a meter here, may be able to find someone to bring one over to check it. Thought trying the manual mode at 100% to check the boil vigorousness might let me know now...if i can get it to switch.
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Got into manual mode. Running at 100% now. Will post back.

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Must not be running at full power like you said. Just went 65 more minutes at 100% power, manual mode and the temp only got to 210 so far.

Any idea's what would cause this? Obviously something is wired wrong. Start at the cord and head back from there?

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