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Old 09-12-2011, 04:22 PM   #11
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Subscribed, I am thinking of trying to set up something similar in my bar.

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Old 09-12-2011, 05:08 PM   #12
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To get this up to 1.5 barrel net which of these sounds best.

1. Weld more head space to the top of drum boil kettle to increase gallons
2. Boil concentrated wort then finish off with boiled water to hit target
3. I have a 80 gallon tank but the bottom is 'concave'. Issues with trub.

Any thoughts ???

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Old 09-12-2011, 05:16 PM   #13
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Also; Talking with Shop man. He thinks instead of 2 Water Heaters we should install one as described and put in a 'whole house' Natural Gas' water heater to pre heat water going into the HLT so we can reheat for successive brews quicker.

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Old 09-12-2011, 05:25 PM   #14
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Natural Gas on demand water heaters have much better reviews than that of electric ones and are very efficient. Should help a lot in conjunction with a bulk water heater or hlt.
You could also tee off of them for cleaning water.

If you can live with a reduced flow rate you could probably run two in series and eliminate the HLT all together. Just a thought...

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Old 09-12-2011, 06:23 PM   #15
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Since you have natural gas on site have you thought about doing a simple steam system for the boiler and or mash temperature controlls? With 3 phase you should be able to get big enough elements to make heating/ boiling quick and controllers should be pretty strait forward.

I would be really intrested in what kind of elements you end up with, I am in the process of designing a 2 BBL system and don't have the ability to use gas. I am debating on an electric heating or an electric fired steam generator.

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Old 09-13-2011, 12:32 AM   #16
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Natural Gas on demand water heaters have much better reviews than that of electric ones and are very efficient. Should help a lot in conjunction with a bulk water heater or hlt.
You could also tee off of them for cleaning water.

If you can live with a reduced flow rate you could probably run two in series and eliminate the HLT all together. Just a thought...
We debated this today. I was concerned with 2 things.

a) Overriding the control unit in an electric instant water heater we had available to look at seem like it would be more difficult than the regular water heater. They usually max at like 130*F
b) Would we be able to get a constant temperature within 1 or 2*F, I fear there may be fluctuation

But the idea is very interesting. This was a discussion today with my Shop man.

Note: I have not had a NG instant HWH to look inside the guts or see one run. But as you said mredge73 they seem to get better reviews.
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:49 AM   #17
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Since you have natural gas on site have you thought about doing a simple steam system for the boiler and or mash temperature controlls?
I actually have an industrial steam boiler on site. But haven't seen an easy way to use in the process without steam jacket kettles and I don't have any extra kettles. These are hard to find at a good price, even though I have 2 in use for other applications.
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With 3 phase you should be able to get big enough elements to make heating/ boiling quick and controllers should be pretty strait forward.
So I hope and assume. Just getting a clear plan on paper is the thing right now.
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Old 09-13-2011, 01:22 AM   #18
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Here is the Crusher/Mill I am ordering soon.
http://www.barleycrusher.com/barleycrushermicro.php
I have a piece of equipment off of our bone pile we have stripped down to mount it on.

Anyone know anything about these?

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Hmmm... It seems strange that they didn't design it to work with one motor. I guess it would have increased the price too much to have one motor drive the two rollers in different directions while still enabling crush adjustment. It looks well made, though. The price is great, too. I like it.

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Hmmm... It seems strange that they didn't design it to work with one motor. I guess it would have increased the price too much to have one motor drive the two rollers in different directions while still enabling crush adjustment. It looks well made, though. The price is great, too. I like it.
My thoughts also. Will look into whether it can be rigged with one motor.
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