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Old 10-27-2010, 02:23 AM   #11
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I think you may have to host it on an external site and link to it.
I used mediafire.com

So it ends up looking like:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/w52yyy3l3md/Panel v5.1 Wiring v1.5.vsd

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Old 10-27-2010, 02:30 AM   #12
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Thanks Ed, here's a link http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?dppnxsxs8o1s7m7

I see you have to download it to view it correct?

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Yes, you have to download. When I selected download, it allowed me to open the PDF.

I'm not familiar with the brewtroller, but the AC looks good to me. You could run one pump off L1 and one off L2, for balance, but that is really minor.

So... the low voltage... yep needs some work

I'm assuming the brewtroller output is +12vdc... looks like you have +12vdc going to both sides of the SSRs ??

I'm assuming you can replicate the switches in my drawing and substitute the BCS outputs for the brewtroller outputs.

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Old 10-28-2010, 01:04 PM   #14
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I think I made a major breakthrough on my low voltage at least for wiring the switches for my pumps and valves. Since I'm sourcing my valves and switches from the BT store the switches I am looking at are DPDT and the connections from the headers only have three wires so it finally sunk in that I just use one side of the DPDT switch for the three wires essentially making it a SPDT switch for my purposes, DUH!!!

Have a question about wiring my pumps to the panel though. Is there any reason I can't use XLR connectors like Kal did for his temp probes? From the Switchcraft website they are rated for 125V and 15A. I like the idea of the locking connection they have and they just look cool.


Plus if I use 6 pole connectors for my valves I can wire 3 valves off these, they are rated at 7.5A @125V. Since I have 10 valves I'd like to use as few connectors in the panel as possible.

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Old 10-28-2010, 01:35 PM   #15
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I think I made a major breakthrough on my low voltage at least for wiring the switches for my pumps and valves. Since I'm sourcing my valves and switches from the BT store the switches I am looking at are DPDT and the connections from the headers only have three wires so it finally sunk in that I just use one side of the DPDT switch for the three wires essentially making it a SPDT switch for my purposes, DUH!!!

Have a question about wiring my pumps to the panel though. Is there any reason I can't use XLR connectors like Kal did for his temp probes? From the Switchcraft website they are rated for 125V and 15A. I like the idea of the locking connection they have and they just look cool.


Plus if I use 6 pole connectors for my valves I can wire 3 valves off these, they are rated at 7.5A @125V. Since I have 10 valves I'd like to use as few connectors in the panel as possible.
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A couple thoughts on using XLR connectors for your pumps;
I agree they look cool.

If you use them on your pumps, you lose the ability to run the pump from anything but your panel. You also will not be able to run a pump from your panel without re-wiring it first (in case you have to replace or bowrrow a pump).

I don't know if running power through a XLR is "normal" and may catch someone unfamiliar with your system off guard? (kinda like getting shocked by a garden hose)

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Not really worried about rewiring the pumps as they just have pigtails on them now anyway. XLR PLUGS Have power running through them all the time see microphone. Plus the amp draw on a motor is only 1.4 amps. You lost me on the garden hose thing.

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Not really worried about rewiring the pumps as they just have pigtails on them now anyway. XLR PLUGS Have power running through them all the time see microphone. Plus the amp draw on a motor is only 1.4 amps. You lost me on the garden hose thing.

I think the jacks you mentioned will work fine from an electrical rating point.

LOL... The garden hose thing; nobody would expect a garden hose to have 120vac in it and would not handle it like they might an extension cord (they look at it and don't think, "electrical risk")... When they see a microphone jack, will they think 120vac? Maybe I should have used speaker wire as my example instead of a garden hose. There may be no risk what so ever, just showing my inexperience with XLR jacks.


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After a little research I saw a thread on an electric guitar site that mentioned AC leaking from these connectors which would trip the GFCI, so back to the flanged inlets for the pumps and HLT stir motor.

I think I can still use these for my valves on the DC side of things. I'll have 10 valves and 1 small DC stir motor for my HEX coil tank so I really don't want to have 11 holes and connectors if I do each individually. I'm wondering how others have connected their valves back to the panel. Definitely using the XLR for temp probe outlets.

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