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Old 12-04-2011, 03:17 PM   #11
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Anybody who wants to work for me has to pass a pre-employment drug/alcohol screening as required by our insurance company. I'm constantly amazed at the number of people who pester me for a job for weeks or months(I tell them straight up about the drug test) and still fail. Everybody has their own way around it and our screeners catch them 90% of the time. Now we make applicants pay for it themselves and we reimburse them on their first check if they pass.
The irony here is that weed stays in the system for weeks, but if a meth head or coke fiend can stay off of it for a couple of days before the test they'll pass. To get around that I'll call the applicant and they have 1 hour to get here and get the paperwork to take to the screener, then they have 20 minutes to sign in over there and get tested.
Personally I don't care if someone smokes a little weed after work, that person won't be hungover at work the next day. But we work on drilling rigs and it's a very dangerous environment so we like our people clean and focused on their work.

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Old 12-04-2011, 03:18 PM   #12
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The best thing to do is just quit for a while. Go to Normyl's website and they will give you a quick run down of why all that stuff we were told when we were young was all BS about passing a DT. All any of it does is water down your urine enought to keep the metabolites below the fail threshold while adding creatine and vitamin b complex to avoid coming back "diluted". I just permantely quit as I couldn't justify putting my job at risk now that I have a family. Good luck!

I'd also recommend buying an at home test to check yourself.

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Old 12-04-2011, 03:21 PM   #13
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Sorry Reno....I saw the "Re" and the "Vy" in your SN and just jumped to conclusions. And thanks for the history lesson, although I will stand by my original opinion that despite how alcohol can literally be defined as a drug...society does not really classify alcohol as a drug, since the term drug is usually referring to a controlled substance or something that your doc has to prescribe for you. Tomato FIGHT!!!! No seriously though, I agree with you.
HA no I wasn't trying to get all upity.

And I'm going to go ahead and get pedantic again (sorry ) but ganja in its natural bud form isn't a control substance. Controlled substances are those that are processed by humans to change them chemically. Bud isn't, but hash or kief is.

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You can buy synthetic urine online. It works - just deliver between 95-100 F.

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Anybody who wants to work for me has to pass a pre-employment drug/alcohol screening as required by our insurance company. I'm constantly amazed at the number of people who pester me for a job for weeks or months(I tell them straight up about the drug test) and still fail. Everybody has their own way around it and our screeners catch them 90% of the time. Now we make applicants pay for it themselves and we reimburse them on their first check if they pass.
The irony here is that weed stays in the system for weeks, but if a meth head or coke fiend can stay off of it for a couple of days before the test they'll pass. To get around that I'll call the applicant and they have 1 hour to get here and get the paperwork to take to the screener, then they have 20 minutes to sign in over there and get tested.
Personally I don't care if someone smokes a little weed after work, that person won't be hungover at work the next day. But we work on drilling rigs and it's a very dangerous environment so we like our people clean and focused on their work.
Overall, very reasonable approach as an employer, especially the bolded statement.

My last two employers didn't screen and didn't care (one of them smoked as well) and before that when I worked for the University of Nevada as an undergrad, my boss told me about when we would take a physical a couple weeks ahead of time so I could stop. I worked for the Environmental Health and Safety department and constantly worked with all kinds of hazardous materials so physicals were a semi-annual thing.
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You can buy synthetic urine online. It works - just deliver between 95-100 F.
Yup. My buddy even bought one of those plastic, fake-urine dispensing dongs before they made them illegal.
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Controlled substances are those that are processed by humans to change them chemically. Bud isn't, but hash or kief is.
Controlled substances are any drug or chemical regulated by the government.

Hash and kief are purified forms of ganja, not chemically altered.
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Hmm... I guess on a federal level. It's not in California or Nevada.

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Hash and kief are purified forms of ganja, not chemically altered.
I know, they just get lumped into the same category as controlled substances in Cal-Neva. I've been pulled over and caught driving with an eighth in California and the only thing that happened to me was I had to pay Nevada County $147. If it were hash or kief I'd be looking at a mark on my license and possible jail time.
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damn government.
Yeah. Occupy whatever it is this calls for!!!

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