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frothdaddy 10-02-2012 08:18 PM

Sprouted GF grains = malted GF grains?
 
I found this online: http://www.organicsproutedflour.net/sproutedgrain.html

Doesn't "sprouting" equal malting? Can I just crush this grain, or roast it for some better flavors? What am I missing?

thanantos 10-02-2012 09:30 PM

I have seen this question roll through here a few times without ever seeing a proper answer.

Usually, the discussion ends on the fact that those grains are contaminated by other glutenous grains.

ALTHOUGH, it appears some ARE doing this with some level of success: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f164/con...failed-357685/

frothdaddy 10-02-2012 09:36 PM

Yeah, I'm aware of those contamination issues, and willing to take that risk for the ease of use if I don't have to malt the grain myself.

Are "malted" grains dried at a higher temp than "sprouted"? ... and it seems a quick roast would solve that issue.

igliashon 10-02-2012 11:08 PM

Only one way to find out!

BTW, I'm planning on giving this a try myself.

thanantos 10-02-2012 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frothdaddy (Post 4464044)
Yeah, I'm aware of those contamination issues, and willing to take that risk for the ease of use if I don't have to malt the grain myself.

Are "malted" grains dried at a higher temp than "sprouted"? ... and it seems a quick roast would solve that issue.

I'm there with you. I think the level of any cross contamination of grains when spread out across 5 gallons would be VERY minimal. I look forward to hearing your results :mug:

I just finally picked up "How to Brew" and am now studying the all grain section. I have also been following igliashon and others posts regarding enzyme use and conversion. I am hoping that one of these bright fellows will figure out the right combination to get decent conversion and then be graceful enough to share it with us.

muench1 10-03-2012 08:20 PM

Sprouting doesn't equal malting, but there are similarities. Sprouting the grain has one goal: making it sprout. Malting is much more complex; to malt you have to get it to sprout, control the process so all the grains sprout at roughly the same time, let them "grow" to the proper level of modification, which is the point at which the maximum amount of starches have been mobilized by the grain's enzymes while the minimum amount have been metabolized, and then abruptly stop the growing process. I would expect commercial sprouted grain, as malt, to run the gamut from undermodified to suffering from severe malting loss.

DougmanXL 10-04-2012 05:48 PM

All I know is, don't trust sprouted grains to self-convert like malted ones, add amylase to be safe... also I think (in my case at least) they were kilned at a high temperature, because they tasted slightly roasted, and were darker brown than the raw ones. I don't think you could use them (very efficiently) as a base malt.

igliashon 10-04-2012 05:54 PM

One thing I notice is that sprouted quinoa definitely tastes and smells sweeter than unsprouted. I've also noticed this with sprouted millet. So it's possible that even if you're just using enzymes, there might be a different (possibly superior) taste when using sprouted grains. Further experimentation is needed.


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