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Old 10-29-2009, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default Sorghum Syrup v Brown Rice Syrup

Anyone used brown rice syrup in place of sorghum syrup and preferred one over the other? I'm trying to get a recipe together and I have some brown rice syrup...just not sure about using it instead of the sorghum syrup.

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food for thought on that one- I'd guess that the rice syrup is made of more glucose than maltose.

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I'm going to attempt another stout at the end of this month, I'll be using 4 lbs brown rice syrup and 3 lbs sorghum syrup, I guess I'll see if it cuts down on the sorghum taste any.

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Is there any way to make GF beer without sorghum?
I don't notice sorghum being used in regular beers .....
Is it because of the malting process?

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Is there any way to make GF beer without sorghum?
I don't notice sorghum being used in regular beers .....
Is it because of the malting process?
You could malt millet or buckwheat and use them in a mash...I'm trying to do thins next with sorghum. OR you can use brown rice syrup in it's place, but you'd need to add malto-dextrin and some yeast nutrient...I'm experimenting with this.

Sorghum isn't used in regular beers because they aren't gluten free. Most gluten free beers use sorghum either as an extract (Redbridge) or as a malt that is used in a mash (Bard's I think).

I'm not sure why one brewery chooses one over the other, I've never tasted Bard's but I bet it is completely different from Redbridge and doesn't have as much of the sorghum taste.
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Personally I wouldn't take the either/or approach to Sorghum and Rice extract. Instead do a mixture of about 5 or 6 parts sorghum extract to 1 part rice extract and you'll end up with a tasty beer that mellows out the sorghum sour notes.

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Personally I wouldn't take the either/or approach to Sorghum and Rice extract. Instead do a mixture of about 5 or 6 parts sorghum extract to 1 part rice extract and you'll end up with a tasty beer that mellows out the sorghum sour notes.
I just made one that is close to this ratio...should be ready about Christmas. If ANY of my recipes are any good, this forum will be the...second or third to know.
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Well, I can report that a GF sorghum Pale can taste a heck of a lot like a green IPA. Just a matter of using some dextrose and a moderate amount of hops. Still tweaking it to get some body back.
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Well, I can report that a GF sorghum Pale can taste a heck of a lot like a green IPA. Just a matter of using some dextrose and a moderate amount of hops. Still tweaking it to get some body back.
Don't sweat it man. I felt the same way about my gf beer.

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Maltodextrin (or Lactose if you're making a Cream Ale) is the real key to body in GF beers. Basically figure out the amount of non-fermentable sugars (sorghum syrup is 25% non-fermentable sugars, whereas rice extract is almost completely fermentable). Then add enough maltodextrin to raise the FG to the desired level.

Example:
I have a 6lb container of sorghum syrup and a 1.25 lb jar of rice extract. How much maltodextrin do I need to get a FG of 1.013 from my 5.25 gal batch of beer?

First Find the FG without Maltodextrin
6 lbs at 38 points per lbs per gal = 228 points

Assume sorghum is 25% non-fermentable (from Briess website), then that means 57 points of non-fermentables.

To get a FG of 1.013 from 5.25 gal that means you need a total of 68 points non-fermentables.

Take 57 from 68, that means you need 11 points of maltodextrin for your batch...or around 4-5 oz of maltodextrin powder (typically powder is about 40 points per pound).

This is a technique I've been using lately and it's been giving me perfect head on my beer that last just as long as it should.

Bonus:
OG on the above example would be about 1.055

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