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11-15-2012, 02:52 PM
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Indigenous Amber Ale
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Promalt experiment #3:
Mash:
2 lbs 8 oz corn grits, lightly toasted
1 lb 12 oz wild rice, medium toasted
4 oz pecans, chopped, roasted, and pressed between paper towels to remove oil
1 tsp gypsum
Boil:
2 lbs organic grade B maple syrup
12 oz molasses
8 oz maltodextrine
1/2 tsp yeast nutrient
Hops:
0.3 oz U.S. Northern Brewer, 60 min
0.7 oz U.S. Northern Brewer, 15 min
Yeast: S-04
OG: 1.066
IBUs: 29.6 (Average)
Mash schedule:
Cereal mash at boiling for 3 hours (I had to leave for class before I could add enzymes). Drop to 120°F, add promalt, rest for 45 minutes stirring every 10 minutes or so. Bring up to 142°F, add additional amylase, rest for an hour, stirring every 10 minutes or so. I skipped the glucanase rest because my grains were just corn and rice, so not very high in beta-glucans. From the mash I collected about 4 gallons of 1.030 wort, about 60% efficiency. I blame myself for rushing the mash; had I left it another hour, I probably could have achieved 75%.
But it's just as well I didn't, because I goofed in the syrup additions. For some reason I thought I could just measure out 24 fluid ounces of maple syrup (which is the weight I meant to add), but it turns out syrup is denser than water and 24 oz of it weighs about 2 lbs. So I ended up with a higher OG than I intended (was aiming for 1.056), but that's fine, because my last two beers have been pretty low-gravity.
At first, I was not optimistic about this beer, because the mash had a very odd smell--kinda salty, almost cheesy or fishy--before I added the enzymes. I blame the wild rice, which smells kinda marshy and did not smell great after roasting. But I persevered, and the resulting wort was nutty and delicious. I think this will turn out to be a fine beer, especially because it's finally cooling off around here so my fermentation temps will be in a more hospitable range.
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11-15-2012, 08:34 PM
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Looks good--is this a 3 gallon batch?
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11-15-2012, 08:45 PM
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This makes me think it might be interesting to try an Ohlone (NorCal tribe) indigenous beer made out of acorns. I haven't seen anything in the record that the Ohlone had any kind of fermentation technology though.
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11-15-2012, 09:29 PM
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Looks good. I'm glad you're having success with unmalted grains and promalt. Just wondering how you cereal mashed at boiling for 3 hours without burning the grains. Did you still continuously for 3 hours? That seems somewhat prohibitive. Or do you have a false bottom on your kettle? Also, how's the color on this beer?
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11-16-2012, 02:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mloster
Looks good. I'm glad you're having success with unmalted grains and promalt. Just wondering how you cereal mashed at boiling for 3 hours without burning the grains. Did you still continuously for 3 hours? That seems somewhat prohibitive. Or do you have a false bottom on your kettle? Also, how's the color on this beer?
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Ha ha, no, I didn't boil the mash the whole time! I just heated it to boiling and then took it off the heat to rest.
The color is a light brown, I think...there's a lot of stuff in suspension right now so it's difficult to judge accurately, but it should end up in amber territory. The post-mash liquor was extremely light, though...even roasted, wild rice seems to add very little color.
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11-16-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ChasidicCalvinist
Looks good--is this a 3 gallon batch?
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Yep! Mine always will be, until further notice.
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11-16-2012, 08:43 PM
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That recipe is crazy, I like it. I wonder if I can modify it and make Chicha instead? Although I would probably use hops (I hate infections); probably 1/2oz of willamette or fuggles. Then maybe double the corn grits, take out the other ingredients... 
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11-16-2012, 10:44 PM
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One thing I must say, about brewing with corn: don't try to grind popcorn in a corona mill! Just don't even try. Trust me.
An all-corn beer would be interesting though, especially if some of it was toasted. I think we gluten-free brewers neglect it unfairly, as well as rice.
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Primary: Empty
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Planning: Chestnut Coffee Stout, another IPA, Wild Rice Brown, Blackberry-Kombucha Sour, Melon Pale Ale, and plenty more!
All gluten-free, all the time!
Check out my gluten-free brewing blog, beyondbarley.blogspot.com
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11-17-2012, 06:47 AM
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The first beer I tried to make was an all corn beer. I used some crushed maize from the home brew store, and added some polenta into the muslin bag. Maybe because I was fairly new to beer making and possibly chose the wrong hops, it didn't turn out too cracking. I am up for giving it another to though.
Do you think it is possible to sprout popping corn? It looks slightly toasted to me which would suggest no. But wondered if anybody had tried it. I just want to know before I go and spend £4 on a bag of it. Worth a try,
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11-19-2012, 05:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by igliashon
One thing I must say, about brewing with corn: don't try to grind popcorn in a corona mill! Just don't even try. Trust me.
An all-corn beer would be interesting though, especially if some of it was toasted. I think we gluten-free brewers neglect it unfairly, as well as rice.
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I recomend an air popper for popcorn.
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