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Old 01-27-2011, 06:06 PM   #1
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Just brewed up an GF IPA for my Dad but he is really not liking it. It's to heavy and hoppy for his taste but I think it turned out great. So I'm trying to put a beer together that is Light and Low Cal/ Low carb for him. He's type two diabetic so when he does have a beer it's generally something really light. Here is the recipe I'm looking at GF light beer
3 lbs. malted buckwheat
1 cup corn sugar
1 oz. Saaz hops
2 oz. Hallertauer Hersbrucker hops
6 lb. rice syrup
1 pkg. ale yeast (EDME)

I'm thinking of cutting out the corn sugar and cutting back the rice syrup to keep the OG low and then use some Amylase Enzyme in the secondary to drop the FG to 1.000. If it turns out well this could be a good summer beer for myself as well. Any recomendations to the recipe I have linked?
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Old 01-27-2011, 06:23 PM   #2
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Just brewed up an GF IPA for my Dad but he is really not liking it. It's to heavy and hoppy for his taste but I think it turned out great. So I'm trying to put a beer together that is Light and Low Cal/ Low carb for him. He's type two diabetic so when he does have a beer it's generally something really light. Here is the recipe I'm looking at GF light beer
3 lbs. malted buckwheat
1 cup corn sugar
1 oz. Saaz hops
2 oz. Hallertauer Hersbrucker hops
6 lb. rice syrup
1 pkg. ale yeast (EDME)

I'm thinking of cutting out the corn sugar and cutting back the rice syrup to keep the OG low and then use some Amylase Enzyme in the secondary to drop the FG to 1.000. If it turns out well this could be a good summer beer for myself as well. Any recomendations to the recipe I have linked?
Thanks,
Terry
I'm not familiar with the malted buckwheat, so I've got no idea what you should expect from it in terms of flavors. But just plugging the info above into an online calculator, I come up with 1.053 as the original gravity. (before the buckwheat it was 1.043, and I don't know what they are figuring for a conversion level for buckwheat, or if the buckwheat in their calculator is equivalent to what you'd be using).

So I'm thinking that cutting down on the fermentables would probably leave this beer extremely 'light'.


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Old 01-27-2011, 06:26 PM   #3
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Do you have lagering capabilities? It would really help with this style quite a bit.

If not, your recipe looks pretty good as is, but I would drop the corn sugar and drop off a lb of the rice syrup.

You also do not detail where you are adding hops. Whatever you do, keep the IBUs below 20 for a light beer. If you want some aroma hops, both that you have listed will work great.

If you really want to drop this to 1.000, you can sub out a lb of rice syrup for corn sugar and use champagne yeast. S-05 will take it to about 1.005 on its own though without the substitution.

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Old 01-27-2011, 07:49 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info guys, I hope I can come up with something he likes. I do not have lagering capabilities and am fairly new to brewing, about 5 batches in so I don't know what I'm doing with calculations I usually just look for a recipe and tweak it a bit. The hop schedule I was going to use is
1/2 oz Saaz + 1/2 oz Hallertauer mix (60min)
1/4 oz Saaz + 1/4 oz Hallertauer mix (30min)
1/4 oz Saaz + 1/4 oz Hallertauer mix (13min)
1 oz Hallertauer (last 2 mins)

I have a lot of Sorghum in the fridge can I substitute that for the rice syrup or will that add to much sugars? Maybe 3lbs rice syrup 2lbs Sorghum or should I just stick with rice?

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im assuming this is a 5 gal batch? if your dad isnt much of a hop-head 3 oz might be a bit much. i routinely put 2-5 oz in my 5 gal batches, i like it, my GF thinks its WAY to hoppy. in my brews this weekend im going to scale back to .75-1.5 oz for a 5 gal batch.

to each his own. this is just an opinion.

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He is defiantly not a hop head, his favorite beer growing up was Schlitz Ive recently got him to try some IPA's and a stout I made but its not his thing. He seems to like Yuengling, but tends to stay towards bud/coors light.

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Old 01-27-2011, 08:19 PM   #7
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So heres what I got

“The Beverymans’ Ale”

3 lbs. malted buckwheat (steep@150 for 30 mins)

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5 lb. rice syrup (60min)
1/2 oz Saaz + 1/2 oz Hallertauer mix (60min)
1/4 oz Saaz + 1/4 oz Hallertauer mix (30min)
1/4 oz Saaz + 1/4 oz Hallertauer mix (13min)
1 tsp Irish moss @ 10 min
1 tsp Yeast Nutrient @ 10 min
.8oz maltodextrine @ 5 min (not sure if needed)
1 oz Hallertauer (last 2 mins)

Safale US-05
7 days Primary
1 Tsp Amylase Enzyme 14 Days( 2ndary fermenter)
1 cup Honey (for bottling)

Feel free to chime in if you would make some changes
Thanks again everyone
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So heres what I got

“The Beverymans’ Ale”

3 lbs. malted buckwheat (steep@150 for 30 mins)

Boil
5 lb. rice syrup (60min)
1/2 oz Saaz + 1/2 oz Hallertauer mix (60min)
1/4 oz Saaz + 1/4 oz Hallertauer mix (30min)
1/4 oz Saaz + 1/4 oz Hallertauer mix (13min)
1 tsp Irish moss @ 10 min
1 tsp Yeast Nutrient @ 10 min
.8oz maltodextrine @ 5 min (not sure if needed)
1 oz Hallertauer (last 2 mins)

Safale US-05
7 days Primary
1 Tsp Amylase Enzyme 14 Days( 2ndary fermenter)
1 cup Honey (for bottling)

Feel free to chime in if you would make some changes
Thanks again everyone
Terry
Maltodextrin adds body to thin beers. (And it sounds like that is the opposite of what you want).

Also, is there a particular reason that you are adding the amylase in secondary? I'm given to understand the purpose of the amylase is to break non-fermentable starch down into fermentable sugar. I thought it was generally adding when the yeast is pitched. If you add it later, it would break the starches down into sugars after the yeast is starting to flocculate...
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If you do use maltodextrine, that amount is a very small amount. I usually use 8 oz in a 5 gallon batch.

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Old 01-28-2011, 12:59 AM   #10
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@dorklord: From what ive read in this thread if you keep the OG low and add the Amylase in secondary it gives you a decent ABV while keeping the calorie/Carb count low, like Michelob ultra. Like I said i'm new to brewing and am just taking info from other people's brews.

@Lcasanova: I may just scratch the maltodextin.



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