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Cainepolo12 11-29-2012 12:21 AM

GF Fat Tire Clone Attempt
 
I am attempting to create a clone of a Fat Tire Amber using GF ingredients. This is the recipe I have come up with. Let me know what you guys think.

3.3# Sorghum syrup (late addition)
2# Roasted Buckwheat
1.5# Roasted Steel Cut Oats
2# Brown Rice Syrup
2# Buckwheat Honey
1# Maltodextrin

yeast nutrient
irish moss

1 oz. WIllamette @ 60
.5 oz. Willamette @ 30

US-05 dry yeast

17 SRM
25.2 IBU's

1.060 OG
1.016 FG

5.9 ABV

Suggestions are very welcome!! I am concerned about this being too dry, but I am still trying to understand exactly what each ingredient does.

stefan1011 12-09-2012 11:42 PM

Are you steeping the roasted buckwheat and roasted oats?

I have never had the opportunity to taste Fat Tire, but the recipe itself looks good and should make a fine GF beer. I personally find that brown rice syrup goes well with sorghum. Buckwheat honey in my experience has added a nice dimension to the finished beer.

As far as being too dry, I wouldn't worry much. US-05 works well with GF fermentables.

I would be curious as to how the beer turns out. I might brew this in the future as an ale/lager split batch, using US-05 for half and W-34/70 (or S-23) for the other half.

blakelyc 12-10-2012 01:57 AM

I don't typically brew gluten free, but I can tell you that adding some fuggles brings regular gluteny brews closer to the real thing. My recipe has 1oz willamette at 60 and .5oz fuggles at 15 and 5. It is close to fat tire fresh on tap. Next time I may nix the 5 minute addition.

Not sure if/how to adjust that for a gluten free brew, though?

Cainepolo12 12-10-2012 03:20 AM

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I am brewing this as we speak, and made a few adjustments to the recipe. I left out the steeped grains bc I isn't think they contributed to what I was looking for In The clone. Final recipe is

2.75# soybean honey
2# brs
3.3# sorghum @ 10

.5 styrian goldings @ 60
.5 Willamette leaf @ 60
.5 styrian @ 30
.25 Willamette @ 15
.25 Willamette @ 5
Dry hop 1 Columbus

Nutrient and Irish moss @ 10

Pitched us-05

Very excited about this one

Recipe and notes are at hopville. Search for la gallega amber

Attachment 87844

DaytonaBigMac 12-20-2012 12:06 AM

Makes 5 gallons? Also, how much Irish Moss and yeast nutrient?

mtbskier 12-20-2012 12:21 AM

Curious to see how this turns out....may need to add some roasted grains, molasses or candy syrup to get the color right....every sorghum/brs beer I have brewed comes out a lighter color without adding something else

Cainepolo12 12-20-2012 01:46 AM

Ya I thought the honey would be dark enough because its like buckwheat honey in color. I've been tasting my samples and it has fermented out to 1.014 and finally slowing. The taste is very mild but you can't always tell before bottling what the final will be like. I'm going to dry hop and hopefully bottling will bring out some depth. Ill update again on color when I rack.

Cainepolo12 12-26-2012 01:45 PM

I wanted to update on this. First, I was very off on my fg calculations. I used buckwheat honey stats to calculate the soybean honey, but that may have been a bad idea. My fg turned out to be 1.002, much lower than I had expected. After tasting samples, this is more of a Saison/witbier brew than an amber ale, but it tastes fantastic! I am going to brew this again as an intentional Belgian, and I think it will be amazing.

Cainepolo12 12-26-2012 02:58 PM

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I racked to secondary this morning, and this is what I found. After almost three weeks in primary, how is it this cloudy? I am actually quite excited because if this isn't haze, I should able to replicate a wheat beer in look. This already has fantastic orange notes and if I switch up the hop schedule, in theory I could make a blue moon clone that is true in all aspects. My miscalculation in FG tells me that there is an unknown variable, and hopefully it is what has resulted in a hazy gf beer. Time will tell.

wolves63 01-15-2013 06:20 PM

Was the buckwheat groats? If not where can i get unhulled buckwheat?


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