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Old 10-23-2007, 08:03 PM   #31
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well, i make a beer constantly called "death by dunkel" and i continually wash/reuse my yeast, and have for the last 5 batches of it, and it's gotten my total cost down to $16.95 per 5 gallon batch. basically, you just save the cost of the yeast per batch, which for liquid yeast is around $8.00 i believe.

That's pretty nice really, I'm just starting out. So I still have to do my time, and spend my $'s.. But I'm sure when I'm brewing a batch a month this will make things nicer..
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Old 10-24-2007, 06:43 PM   #32
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Nice how to, I wish I had seen it before I tried yeast washing.

I tend to use a very flocculant brewery yeast and washing seems to lead to collecting the least flocculant cells so you'll probably end up with a far less flocculant yeast than the original, particularly if you collect from the secondary. I prefer to skim or drop and use the yeast as is from the primary. Better still harvest from a conical if finances and or space allows.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:05 PM   #33
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A few obvious questions to you guys-

After you wash yeast and store it for a while like it was illustrated, how do you then go about actually using that yeast for your next batch. I'm not really sure what a yeast starter is actually. Do you do this with dry yeast? I've only been using liquid so far...

Why do you need to let the washed yeast sit for so long before using it?



How do you get the yeast from your primary (assuming you go this method to get the more flocculating yeasties) separated from all that trub?

Also, it seems insane to pitch wort directly to a unclean primary vessel with the yeast cake already there... Or would you do this only with secondary? Anyone ever have sanitation issues?



Thanks for helping out an aspiring newbie brewer
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Old 11-01-2007, 10:17 PM   #34
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A few obvious questions to you guys-

After you wash yeast and store it for a while like it was illustrated, how do you then go about actually using that yeast for your next batch. I'm not really sure what a yeast starter is actually. Do you do this with dry yeast? I've only been using liquid so far...

Why do you need to let the washed yeast sit for so long before using it?



How do you get the yeast from your primary (assuming you go this method to get the more flocculating yeasties) separated from all that trub?

Also, it seems insane to pitch wort directly to a unclean primary vessel with the yeast cake already there... Or would you do this only with secondary? Anyone ever have sanitation issues?



Thanks for helping out an aspiring newbie brewer
A yeast starter is a mini batch of unhopped wort that you use to grow yeast. One of the first thing that the yeasties do after you pitch is to multiply. You can increase the number of yeast dramatically by making a mini wort just for growing the yeast. That way there will be enough yeast for your beer and they'll start fermenting right away and won't spend a lot of energy multiplying. Generally, people do this with liquid yeast. Dry yeast usually have a large enough cell count in a pack that you don't need to worry about a starter. The other reason to use a starter is to make sure that your yeast are still alive and viable. If they don't ferment the starter you know they're no good anymore without wasting a full batch of beer.

You can use the washed yeast immediately.

The whole point of washing the yeast is to separate it from the trub. By mixing the trub with water, the yeast end up back in suspension and the heavier hop particles and other junk settle back to the bottom of the jar. If you carefully pour the liquid off the stuff that's settled, you'll have mostly yeast in the new jar. Wait for a few days and the yeast will fall out of suspension and the bottom of the jar will have a layer of yeast on it.

As for repitching directly into a "dirty" fermenter, I've done that several times with great results. Really, the primary isn't dirty. The beer you racked out of the primary was clean, right? You're just pouring more beer into the container. The only problem that you might encounter is that some of the flavors from the previous beer could transfer to your new brew. This can be minimized by brewing the same (or very similar) beer or going for a darker style in the second beer.
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thank the pics weer great
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I think Palmer recommended harvesting from secondary, because there is less trub in the secondary but I have used both with little difference. the yeast from the secondary will be faster to floculate
I thought it was the opposite, that yeast in the primary yeast cake are the flocculant ones and those still in solution which are in the secondary are less flocculant (that would make sense to me).
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Thanks so much for this, Took a lot of the mistique out of it.

I used a quart, and 4 pint jars and i didn't fill the 4 pints all the way up like the smaller jelly jars in the pictures, is it a problem to have head space in the jars?
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I have a question:

if I do a starter with only one pint sized Mason jars...how many liter of beer I can do?
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I have a question:

if I do a starter with only one pint sized Mason jars...how many liter of beer I can do?


Depends how big the starter is. You pitch the yeast that is washed into the starter, then you pitch the yeast starter into the beer.
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Depends how big the starter is. You pitch the yeast that is washed into the starter, then you pitch the yeast starter into the beer.

I usually do 23 liters = 40 pints = 6 gal of beer... how big my starter should be ?
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