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Old 03-29-2012, 01:47 AM   #1
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Default Yeast Starter or 2 packs question?

I have little patience. (I know, not good in brewing). And I am lazy. But I love brewing beer and have plenty of money to spend on brewing.

So, would it be the same for me to just buy 2 or 3 packages of wyeast activator and pitch it instead of having to wait for a starter?

Or is that going to be not as good because of the activity? Any experience on this?

Thank you for your answers in advanced.



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Old 03-29-2012, 01:51 AM   #2
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It's not exactly the same, as you won't be ensuring viability, but much better than underpitching. If you have money to blow and really don't want to spend a half hour making a starter, go for it.



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Old 03-29-2012, 01:53 AM   #3
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my bet is your can make a starter faster than you can pop 3 wyeast packs ...... at least i can

i have an issue poping those things

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Old 03-29-2012, 05:31 AM   #4
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The wyeast activator packs show viability with CO2 release blowing up the container like a balloon. I am not sure how the viability of a starter is more obvious than a balloon effect. However, I can see that a strong krausen might be the same as the balloon effect in the visual aspect. I appreciate your answers. On the financial side, it costs a few bucks to make a starter. (not including the yeast itself). And only a couple bucks more for a 2nd package of yeast. So by spending only a couple of dollars, I can avoid having to make a starter. Sounds like 2 packages of yeast is as good as a starter of the same number of cells. I will try this method now. Cheers!

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The wyeast activator packs show viability with CO2 release blowing up the container like a balloon. I am not sure how the viability of a starter is more obvious than a balloon effect. However, I can see that a strong krausen might be the same as the balloon effect in the visual aspect. I appreciate your answers. On the financial side, it costs a few bucks to make a starter. (not including the yeast itself). And only a couple bucks more for a 2nd package of yeast. So by spending only a couple of dollars, I can avoid having to make a starter. Sounds like 2 packages of yeast is as good as a starter of the same number of cells. I will try this method now. Cheers!
Well, as long as your smack pack isn't already inflated when you get it, which has happened more than once for me, then you are correct about the viability piece.

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LOL, I buy mine at the store and would not buy it if it was already blown up. I like to smack it myself.

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LOL, I buy mine at the store and would not buy it if it was already blown up. I like to smack it myself.
Ah, I do not have that luxury. No LHBS within 60 miles.
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Having a yeast starter is all about yeast health. And in turn, you get a healthy fermentation. If you have a healthy ferm then you get more consistent results. Also, it adds up, for me at least, to buy more than one yeast pack.

But if you have the money, getting two packs will work just fine. Also, there is a lot of info about starters on mrmalty.com. Check that out if you are really interested.

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The wyeast activator packs show viability with CO2 release . . . And only a couple bucks more for a 2nd package . . .
Multiple packs of fresh viable yeast are fine if not better than a starter made in a home (non-lab) environment.

The big question here is, where are you getting Wyeast for a couple of bucks?
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The big question here is, where are you getting Wyeast for a couple of bucks?
I think he meant it was just a couple bucks more to buy a second pack vs the cost of a starter. Which is a bit of an exaggeration, but its a valid point that making a starter isn't free.


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