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Old 05-18-2014, 04:48 PM   #21
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Made a Heady Topper clone from the massive thread here on HBT. Mashed at 149/150 and fermented at 64 ramping to 71 over 2 weeks before dry hopping. OG 1.079 and FG 1.020. Was hoping it would come down a little more but I'm not upset with it. Hydro samples smelled and tasted great. Might take another hydro sample when dry hop complete, but I don't expect much change. Great peachy notes from this yeast. Will use it again for sure.
Sounds like it's going to be good! Just out of curiosity do you think you fermented it low if your FG was a bit higher in the end? As Yeast Bay says ferment at 67-69 for 3-4 days then up to 72 to finish out fermentation (if I recall). Obviously there are all sorts of schedules a person can follow, but just wondering if with your lower temperature it affected attenuation.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:34 AM   #22
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Sounds like it's going to be good! Just out of curiosity do you think you fermented it low if your FG was a bit higher in the end? As Yeast Bay says ferment at 67-69 for 3-4 days then up to 72 to finish out fermentation (if I recall). Obviously there are all sorts of schedules a person can follow, but just wondering if with your lower temperature it affected attenuation.
Oops. Misread the thread title. I used Vermont IPA yeast (Gigayeast) not yeast bay. Temp range for IPA yeast goes a little lower.
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Old 05-19-2014, 12:51 AM   #23
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I just poured my first glass on an IPA I brewed with Yeast Bay Vermont Ale.

6 gallon batch
Brewed on 5/5/14
6.5 lbs Marris Otter
6.5 lbs Domestic 2-row
75 IBU of Hopshot at 60
3 oz FF7C and 2 oz Simcoe at Whirlpool
2 oz FF7C, 1 oz Simcoe, and 1 oz Amarillo at dry hop. Dry hopped when gravity was at 1.025. Removed dry hops 3 days later when gravity was 1.012
Single infusion mash at 152. Batch sparge. No Chill.

OG: 1.060
FG: 1.011

Pitched a 1500 ml real wort starter that had been on a stir plate for 24 hours. Probably the most active yeast starter I've ever had. I about had a blow-off on the starter in the flask. I pitched at 67 degrees. I held that steady for 3 days, added dry-hops, and then raised it to 72 for 3 more days. I removed the dry-hops and turned off the temp controller and let it sit for another 4 days before kegging. Kegged it and force carbed. Added gelatin at kegging as it was very cloudy.

I'm very pleased with this one. I don't brew a lot of American IPAs. It's been several years since I've brewed one and kind of swore them off after some sub-par attempts. I figured it was easier to buy a good IPA than brew a sub-par one. I think with this batch I'm back on the IPA train. To be honest. I don't know where the yeast comes in to this one, however. It's a fruit bomb and I can't tell where the yeast ends and the hops begin. I definitely want to use this yeast again in a milder beer so I can get a handle on it. I saved some from this batch and hope to get a simpler brew in with it.

I was kind of worried with this yeast at first. When I tasted it at dry-hopping it was throwing off some moderate phenols. Very Belgianish. I figured I'd let it see where it would go, and sure enough it cleaned itself up. I'm not a smart man and don't know what's going on at the chemical level, but I like what it did. Always nice to be surprised in a good way.

I also have the Funktown Pale Ale yeast from Yeast Bay going right now. It is in a vienna/amarillo SMaSH that I can compare to another similar recipe with S-05. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't more excited for the Funktown version than my Vermont IPA. So far it is shaping up to be a nice beer. If anyone is at WYES Beer Tasting in New Orleans in a few weeks, come to the Swamp Rat table and ask for some of the funky pale ale.

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Old 05-19-2014, 01:40 PM   #24
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Oops. Misread the thread title. I used Vermont IPA yeast (Gigayeast) not yeast bay. Temp range for IPA yeast goes a little lower.
I see. Would be interesting to see what your recipe is like with the Yeast Bay Vermont Ale, just for comparison.
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Old 05-19-2014, 01:45 PM   #25
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Excellent bonus picture, Austin!

I did the Fresh Squeezed I found in the HBT recipes but used the Vermont Ale yeast instead of what the recipe called for. Trying to be patient with this one, but I think I'll take a sample later today and see where it is at. Today is day eight. Glad yours turned out well.

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Just curious how long fermentation took. I mashed at 152 and fermented at 68 for four days then two days ago put it up to 72 as Yeast Bay recommends. my OG was 1.076. It's only been six days so I am not touching it for now, but just curious how long it took you to get to 1.004.
Sorry about the late reply!

It took 25 days in all. I ended up taking nine days before I dry hopped because I had to go out of town. Planned to dry hop for two weeks, but that ran a little long too.
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:08 AM   #27
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Sorry about the late reply!

It took 25 days in all. I ended up taking nine days before I dry hopped because I had to go out of town. Planned to dry hop for two weeks, but that ran a little long too.
I ended up taking a sample two days ago, which was eight days since pitching. It was at about 1.014. I am dry hopping as well but think I'll let it sit for a bit more first. Although the sample didn't smell boozy I found it tasted boozy with a bit of delayed heat in the throat (ABV is a touch over 8%). According to BeerSmith the IBUs are 100+ and I wondered if my perception of boozy is actually the ABV solely or if the bitterness is also contributing to the perception of it being boozy. I think I have experienced that before when I thought something was boozy but it actually was just the bitterness I was experiencing, or maybe I am out to lunch!

Anyway, it's still quite young and I will take it up to a solid two weeks at least I think then dry hop for about five days, cold crash for a couple then keg.
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Old 08-02-2014, 02:40 PM   #28
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I just did a 20 gallon batch of Heady clone last weekend and ended up with an OG of 1.082, which was slightly higher than I wanted. My mash ended up being too efficient. :-) I brewed on a Saturday, and by Wednesday the bubbles slowed down to one bubble every half second, so I decided to take a gravity reading....1.018. I just took a reading three days later and I'm at 1.016 now. According to the online calculator at Brewersfriend that puts me at 78% attenuation so far, and I don't think this beer is quite done and may move a few points yet. I forgot to mention, I fermented the entire time at 64 degrees exactly, since that is the temperature of my basement year round (I have two thermometers in my workshop where I ferment).

I used this yeast once before on a different Imperial IPA that used 3 pounds of Citra hops (22 gallon batch) and was very pleased. The yeast definitely helped with the citrus notes of that beer. That time I got around 80% attenuation and it was also @ 64 degrees the entire time.

I guess one thing to add is that I do use huge starters due to my batch sizes. I start out with two packs and a 1 gallon starter, then step it up another two gallons to get to the quantity recommended @ yeastcalculator.com. I also oxigenate for 10-20 minutes with an aquarium pump in the conical before pitching, and then oxigenate the next morning for 5-10 minutes until the foam reaches the top of the conical. This is how I've been doing it for quite a while now. The yeast easily eats through all that oxygen during the fermentation process, and I have never tasted any hint of oxidization in my beers. It's possible that my oxigenation process and huge starters helps attenuation along, and that is maybe why I've never had the need to raise the temperature to get yeasts to attenuate out all the way. I do believe that the 300 billion cell packs are easily more than enough for a 5 gallon batch though, and I do agree that you should not be changing the temperatures frequently...maybe once or twice raise the temperature by only a few degrees is my advice.

Those are my experiences, and I hope it helps.

Edit: One other thing. I always rouse my yeast at least 3 times a day. If you do this, be very careful that you don't have an immediate blowoff if it's during activity!

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