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Old 02-05-2013, 11:55 PM   #1
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Default Wyeast and Rogue dispute over Pacman?

I use Wyeast 1764 Rogue's Pacman strain as a house yeast for many of my clean beers. This weekend, I asked the lhbs owner if he knew when it might be "re-released" again. He claimed that there is a serious dispute between Wyeast and Rogue about either financial aspects of their yeast banking or the terms of their Private Collection release relationship and that it could be a long, long time before it comes out again. I can't find any info online to support this, does anyone know anything else?



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Old 02-06-2013, 12:47 AM   #2
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I think MoreBeer offers a substantially similar, if not exact same, yeast strain called San Diego Super Yeast.



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MoreBeer says 1764 is currently out of stock but on backorder and will arrive around 02/11/13. I was looking to buy some yesterday, and this was the only place I found it still available. Guess we'll see next week what the real status is.

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Is culturing it up from their Shakespeare Stout no longer an option?

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I think MoreBeer offers a substantially similar, if not exact same, yeast strain called San Diego Super Yeast.
SDSY, while a nice yeast, is definitely not the same as Pac Man which is in a class by itself. I don't know where this notion that the two yeast are the same/similar came about but if you have used each one you will know that this is simply not the case.
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Is culturing it up from their Shakespeare Stout no longer an option?
Sure. Personally, I have a few generations of 1764 banked, but you can always build up from Rogue bottles.

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SDSY, while a nice yeast, is definitely not the same as Pac Man which is in a class by itself. I don't know where this notion that the two yeast are the same/similar came about but if you have used each one you will know that this is simply not the case...
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Just to clarify the post, I'm not currently looking for PacMan, or substitutions, I was mostly just curious if these rumblings have any merit?
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Just to clarify the post, I'm not currently looking for PacMan, or substitutions, I was mostly just curious if these rumblings have any merit?[/QUOTE]

I will ask the local LHBS guy who has stocked Wyeast since its inception, and who always has PacMan available on a regular basis at his store (via third party distribution with Wyeast) if he has heard anything about a Rogue/Wyeast fight. If anyone would know, this guy would. I too am very interested in this because this is my go-to yeast...

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I haven't heard any such rumblings, but if they should turn serious and we don't get pacman again, it can always be harvested from a number of Rogue bottle-conditioned ales.

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I haven't heard any such rumblings, but if they should turn serious and we don't get pacman again, it can always be harvested from a number of Rogue bottle-conditioned ales.
It sure is nice/easier to pitch a smack pack into a flask on the stir plate rather than having to grow the yeast up from bottle dregs...
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Or, you can grow the yeast from your OWN bottle dregs



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