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Old 05-27-2011, 04:59 PM   #141
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I am using this yeast in a pretty simple rec:
8# 2 row
1# 20L
1 oz pearle @ 60
1 oz saaz @ 20
1 oz saaz @ 5

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Sounds wonderfully pure. Some folks'll tell you to reduce the crystal for increased fermentability, but as I have discovered for myself, this yeast can make short work of what would otherwise be only moderately fermentable worts.


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Old 05-28-2011, 12:16 AM   #142
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Sounds wonderfully pure. Some folks'll tell you to reduce the crystal for increased fermentability, but as I have discovered for myself, this yeast can make short work of what would otherwise be only moderately fermentable worts.
It just dawned on me I have Belgian Saison and not French. Either way, that recipe will likely maintain.


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Old 05-28-2011, 08:54 AM   #143
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Any reason I can't use this yeast for an IPA? All my current brews on tap are low IBU and I'm itching for a nice Pale Ale or IPA.

Plan is to keep the temps lower to reduce the characteristic spicy yeasty flavor, just want to have a nice IPA even with this warmer weather. I already do the ice packs in a bucket trick, but have been plagued with high fusel alcohol beers my last two batches.

OG of 1.065 of LME and DME with 60 IBUs and lots of late additions of hops to help balance out the expected low FG. Start fermentation at 68 and move up to 77 over the course of a week. Using part of a yeast cake from my 3.8% Petite Saison I will be kegging. What do you think?

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Old 05-28-2011, 09:06 AM   #144
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A few weeks ago I used 3711 to brew a iipa. Started around 1.095. Its down to around 1.015. I used 4oz late addition cascade. Fermented at 70 the whole time. I tasted it a few days ago. Very citrusy. Didnt notice any earthyness. Did notice it was a bit hot though. Hoping a couple weeks of aging will mellow that. Will let you know.

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Old 05-28-2011, 01:11 PM   #145
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It just dawned on me I have Belgian Saison and not French. Either way, that recipe will likely maintain.
Then I'll say a little prayer that you don't get a stuck ferment.
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:39 PM   #146
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Then I'll say a little prayer that you don't get a stuck ferment.
I may run it back and swap it. Everything I read says to get 3711.

The guy at LHBS acted like he knew I'd be swapping it. I'm hoping to do mine prob next weekend, or early the week after.

Do you guys do a long secondary fermentation with it or anything?

Edit: I am also swapping out the 20L for Munich, and adding a little Carafa III for color.
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I may run it back and swap it. Everything I read says to get 3711.

The guy at LHBS acted like he knew I'd be swapping it. I'm hoping to do mine prob next weekend, or early the week after.

Do you guys do a long secondary fermentation with it or anything?

Edit: I am also swapping out the 20L for Munich, and adding a little Carafa III for color.
Actually, my sources tell me that the Belgian Saison doesn't really get stuck so much as it just slows. It hits the brakes around 1.035'ish, but as long as you can keep it warm and can wait several weeks or more, it'll eventually do the job you asked of it. This is all second-hand knowledge for me.

Anyway, I've given my saison with the 3711 3 weeks in primary, and plan on giving it another 3-5 weeks in secondary (keg) before tapping. Mostly this is because I don't have the empty slot in my keezer, but I also think a month or two should help the beer's flavors mature a bit and reduce some of that saisony hotness mentioned earlier.
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Thanks for the feedback, I guess I won't ramp up the fermentation temp and try and keep it around 70 the whole time.

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I just had the first taste of my second batch of Saison using 3711 last night. Yummy stuff. Nice amount of yeast flavor.

I am hooked on this yeast and am going to do another batch soon.

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Thanks for the feedback, I guess I won't ramp up the fermentation temp and try and keep it around 70 the whole time.
3724 may need higher temps to fully attenuate as mentioned earlier, but I've used 3711 successfully at both a static temp (~68 F) and once ramping up temps to 80 F. Both methods yielded good results. 3711 is pretty versatile, but in my experience (and anecdotally via this thread) you certainly shouldn't need to warm this strain up. Hope your batch turns out well, cheers!


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